For Herman Cain, a surge in the polls
Thursday, October 6, 2011
ATLANTA (AP) — Rick Perry's loss has been Herman Cain's gain.
As the Texas governor has tumbled in polls for the Republican race for president, Cain — the former pizza magnate and radio talk show host — has enjoyed a surge in support from a restless Republican electorate sifting through would-be suitors.
Cain has topped a slew of recent straw polls — tests of conservative activists — notably pulling off an upset in the battleground state of Florida. His fundraising has apparently picked up and his poll numbers are climbing, too. A new CBS survey had the Atlanta businessman in a statistical tie for the lead with former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney. His just-released, rags-to-riches political memoir has landed among Amazon.com's top 10 best-sellers.
Yet, with his presidential campaign suddenly in the spotlight, Cain isn't canvassing in Iowa or New Hampshire but at a Barnes & Noble in St. Petersburg, Fla., as part of a two-week book tour to promote "This Is Herman Cain! My Journey to the White House." He'll be hawking the optimistically titled memoir at appearances in Florida, Texas, Virginia and South Carolina, states likely to play key roles in the 2012 race.
He's also made splashy national appearances on "The View" and "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno" and won't be back in Iowa — the first-in-the-nation caucus state — until next month.
It's not the traditional strategy of a serious White House contender. But then Cain is not the traditional presidential candidate.
The former chief executive of Godfather's Pizza has never held elected office, having lost a 2004 Republican primary for the U.S. Senate in Georgia. In other years, such a sparse political resume might be disqualifying, but Cain is running for the tea party mantle and he brandishes the outsider status like a badge of honor.
Cain told The Associated Press on Wednesday that he's working hard to build his name recognition and the book tour — which has been interspersed with political events — helps do just that. Once supporters come aboard, he said, they stick.
"That's the reason I am not worried about being the flavor of the week," Cain told the AP. "Because we have a whole lot of substance we are putting out there, and Cain supporters do not defect."
Indeed, several hundred people packed a St. Petersburg bookstore Wednesday to meet the candidate.
"I like everything that he says and all his ideas," said Lynn Drag, a 62-year-old retiree from St. Petersburg. "I think he's more of a common-man kind of a person. He has specific ideas that I can understand. And he seems like a self-made man."
Steven C. Wright, a 59-year-old St. Petersburg-based church pastor, said part of Cain's appeal is his faith.
"He is a true, biblical Christian," he said. "I think that he's the real deal."
"Look at the turnout. I did not expect this," said Wright. "That shows he has a strong grass-roots effort."
But does Cain have the campaign infrastructure and fundraising muscle to capitalize on the momentum? Or will he flame out like other conservative darlings in the GOP race who've wilted under close scrutiny, such as Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann?
Cain's Iowa organization has been beset with problems, prompting some caucus activists to look at other candidates. Cain's Iowa campaign manager and two top caucus organizers, including influential tea party activists, quit in late June, unhappy with the candidate's commitment to appearing in the state.
Last election cycle, Cain lent himself $500,000 to keep his campaign afloat.
And even in his home state of Georgia, where Cain enjoys strong tea party support, elected officials and deep-pocketed donors have pledged their allegiance elsewhere.
Republican strategist Dan McLagan, a veteran of four presidential races, called Cain "this week's Michele Bachmann until he shows some organizational strength and fundraising ability."
But McLagan also credited Cain for pushing a tax reform plan that's resonating with voters hungry for solutions.
"And that could serve as a lesson to the others to find something to be for," he said.
Cain's 9-9-9 tax plan is the centerpiece of his campaign and has the catchy ring of a Godfather's pizza promotion.
It would scrap the current tax code and replace it with a 9 percent tax on corporations and personal income as well as a 9 percent national sales tax. The sheer simplicity of the change, Cain argues, would boost the economy. Conservatives generally like the plan. Some liberals argue it would harm lower- and middle-income families.
But the sudden buzz surrounding Cain reflects more of the unsettled nature of the Republican race — with conservatives trying out and then rejecting would-be suitors — than it does Cain himself.
"He is the next guy to go through the conservative vetting process and will have to prove to be able to beat both Romney and (President Barack) Obama for conservatives to embrace him," said Erick Erickson, who runs the conservative blog RedState.
"If he can't show that, conservatives will probably go back to Perry."
Cain has also had his share of stumbles, mostly on foreign policy and Islam.
An African-American, Cain likes to say that he is American first, black second and conservative third. But he's created some waves in the black community by suggesting that blacks have been "brainwashed" to vote Democratic.
"A lot of black Americans are thinking for themselves. Now there are some that are so brainwashed that they won't even consider a conservative idea," he said on "The View" this week.
Still, new polls give the Cain camp reason to be hopeful. The son of a chauffeur and a maid, Cain seems to have a quality that some other rivals lack: likability.
An ABC News/Washington Post poll out early this week found that 47 percent of voters said the more they get to know about Cain the more they like him. That tops the GOP field.
The latest Gallup poll measure Cain's "positive intensity" score at 30, the highest Gallup has measured for any GOP presidential candidate to date.
"The media has tried to make this a two-person race," Cain told the AP. "But I think what we are seeing is that the voice of the people is more powerful than the media."
Tamara Lush in St. Petersburg, Fla., and Thomas Beaumont in Des Moines, Iowa, contributed to this report.

Comments
clingingredneck 1 year, 8 months ago
I love this guy. He is the only one with a brain in his head and a plan in writing. Time to put the career politicians to rest and vote in some fresh blood. You voted for Obama to prove you were'nt racist. Now vote for Herman Cain to prove you aren't STUPID!!! Cain 2012!!!
3bunnies 1 year, 8 months ago
Don't blame Wall Street, don't blame the big banks, if you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself!" Cain said. "It is not a person's fault if they succeeded, it is a person's fault if they failed."
huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/06/herman-cain-occupy-wall-street_n_998092
asb 1 year, 8 months ago
He was definitely wrong, the oil tycoons and other top businessmen are indeed small in number but are not stupid and are the most powerful people on the planet, sorry Dwight
asb 1 year, 8 months ago
If there are 80 jobs and 100 equal applicants, the 20 who don't get jobs are to blame for not being chosen? The left wants to restore the pre-Bush tax rates, not take. Everybody envies wealth, it's human. Some extremists on the left hate private property, the rest of us recognize its value. The left is largely comprised of the hardest working, lowest paid portion of our workforce. Taxes are a pain, but collecting them in an elected system is not stealing. The government, taking fairly from each of us, helps us all. Your are spreading lies, whether on purpose or through ignorance I cannot tell, but they are lies.
clingingredneck 1 year, 8 months ago
No, it's not their fault for not getting that job. It's their fault for not going out and applying for ANOTHER JOB!!! It's the elitist attitude of the left who refuse to take a position they consider "beneath" them that is the real issue. I have a Masters Degree and am working, but if I lost my job tomorrow I wouldn't be sitting around moaning about it. I would be flipping burgers at McDonalds to put food on the table. Suck it up you wimp!
asb 1 year, 8 months ago
You're right, nothing special about pre-Bush tax rates, just better than today's. It is a lie that the left are lazy. You have been lied to about that.
evenkeel 1 year, 8 months ago
If Cain gets the nomination it'll be Cain vs Un-able.
Spankthefed 1 year, 8 months ago
The left is tied to the voting block of an unmotivated lower class with a sense of entitilement, as long as it is, it will falter, and not be good for the country as a whole. The GOP is not much better, part of the cut up the pie inside the beltway hooligans. Start with tossing the IRS, and the sick industry of lawyers that support it out on their butts, and that is the fair tax and Herman Cain. Then we can look at other worthless departments and hacks.
asb 1 year, 8 months ago
The lower classes have some unmotivated and entitlement-grabbing members, but defining the lower classes in these terms is inaccurate and feeds the ancient upper class mantra that the poor are their own, genetically derived, source of misery. There's an equal portion of the upper classes who do nothing and take as much from society as they can, with no input; this is a facet of human nature that is inherent, not inherited. I'm not sure I'd have the Defense or Transportation departments collecting Herman's 999, we need a tax agency. I agree that the tax industry is fat, biased toward wealth, and self-regulated to the point of being a major drag on the economy. However, Anything as simple as "999" is a platitude, not unlike his also saying the poor are poor because they messed themselves up, without accounting for a lack of work, a lack of stake in our major processes, and a lack of self-respect hammered into them by the wealthy. Herman will fail.
JCLifer 1 year, 8 months ago
"The lower classes have a large number of unmotivated ... members"
That is why they are in the lower class!
clingingredneck 1 year, 8 months ago
Do you always drink the Koolaide they hand you? Do you ever think for yourself? Nobody said it's genetic. It's a culture and an attitude which is instilled at a young age. The Dems have done nothing but enslave the african americans again under the welfare system.
John 1 year, 8 months ago
ASB's response is timely, well written, and to the point. I found his analysis of the IRS to be quite well done except for his postulate: "I agree that the tax industry is fat, biased toward wealth, and self-regulated to the point of being a major drag on the economy. However, Anything as simple as "999" is a platitude ..." It is that kind of attitude that has brought about the "fat, biased toward wealth, and self-regulated" organization. There is absolutely no reason that it CAN be as SIMPLE AS THAT. The only possible reason for it not to be that simple is because a tremendous number of government employees (IRS) would be out of work. Everybody pays the same percentage, wage earners, corporations, companies, and unemployed. You can modigy it a little and still have only a couple of computers, printers, and a couple of IT pelople to maintain them, and then some office person to carry items to the post office. . .
asb 1 year, 8 months ago
There are a lot more tax lawyers than IRS employees, and those lawyers and their clients wield a lot more influence than the IRS. If a 999 system can be codified for us all to examine, and can be shown to work, great. Cain will be well remembered for pushing it. But without more detail, and until the tax dodging industry is brought more under control, it won't happen.
JCLifer 1 year, 8 months ago
Obama defines "wealthy" as a family with an income over $40,000.
asb 1 year, 8 months ago
The only references I'm aware of on who Obama says is wealthy run in the seven to eight-digit income range. Your $40K number sounds like a Limbaugh-grade lie.
asb 1 year, 8 months ago
That's right, universal health care, in any form, and no matter how long overdue it is for the richest nation on Earth, and no matter the how much you see it as an islamo-facist America-destroying evil, isn't free. Except for those with good lawyers who will find enough deductions on a home gym or medical school donation to avoid it. Meow!
asb 1 year, 8 months ago
It could fail, and it could cost more than a truely free market healthcare system, but there is no free market on Earth and we are not Darwinian in how we handle the poor and they must be cared for. Healthcare is an open ended issue, since we're all dying from birth, so caution, management, limitations, and regulation is required. I'd rather that be done by the government than by Permanante. The entire world has some type of national health care, and when the richest nation on Earth can't compete with second and third world countries, somebody is scaming the rest of us.
asb 1 year, 8 months ago
So it's not the government's role to "provide for the health and welfare . . . ?"
asb 1 year, 8 months ago
Yes, it is. The constitution, western ethics and history, common sense, and most religions, all call for a common good. You'd have it provided by Monsanto or the gibbering church of we be right or else; I'd have it be done through a democratically elected government, like mine. Your's is weird.
JCLifer 1 year, 8 months ago
If the government's duty is to provide free healtcare, I think the government should also provide free food to all citizens.
asb 1 year, 8 months ago
Free government healthcare for all is not being proposed. Those that can pay will do so, and will pay for those that cannot, just like today when the poor get the most expensive healthcare of all, ER care. Free food, shelter, and medical care for those unable to provide for themselves? Of course.
JCLifer 1 year, 8 months ago
So if this care is supposed to be cheaper, why do we have to pay more?
asb 1 year, 8 months ago
Health insurance, and health care costs, are going up every day. I believe that bringing in all Americans, more tightly regulating the insurers, and eventually establishing a single payer system with multi-provider competition, will slow the growth. Right now we have a monopoly of barely regulated insurers and care providers who hide costs, multiple bill, and generally run roughshod over the working class and squeeze money from every player in the system, with little hope of slowing them down.
JCLifer 1 year, 8 months ago
And we'll have horrible quality socialist healthcare like Canada has. :-(
evenkeel 1 year, 8 months ago
Already, Cains words are being twisted. He isn't blaming the poor. He isn't blaming anyone. He is empowering the individual. Cain is not a class warrior. Cain is saying this: why pit the wealthy versus the poor? Who does it lift? No one. Cain is a champion of the individual.
Read again what Herman Cain is saying. "Don't blame Wall Street, don't blame the big banks, if you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself! ... "It is not a person's fault because they succeeded, it is a person's fault if they failed. And so this is why I don't understand these demonstrations and what is it that they're looking for."
Cain is saying, quit this blame game. Take responsibility for your own condition. If you are not happy about your life, take action and improve it. Point your finger at yourself and say "this is who is going to turn my life around".
Individual responsibility, wow, what a concept!
evenkeel 1 year, 8 months ago
As you can probably tell, I dig Herman Cain.
asb 1 year, 8 months ago
I like him too, but when there's only so much wealth available and only so many jobs, you're not going get elected telling the majority it's their fault they're not all employed and rich. Wall Street and the banking industry are very much (not totally, of course) responsible for our present economic recession, and government too for not regulating them. People didn't suddenly get lazy or start making bad career decisions, the fire banked and the money supply tanked and Herman is telling most of us it's our own fault. Blaming the poor for being poor is just too easy, and not true, ever.
asb 1 year, 8 months ago
This is one small issue between left & right, and you're describing it wrong to boot. Saying the left doesn't want to work is classic propoganda, the left works very very hard. Blaming the government for recession is also propoganda.
asb 1 year, 8 months ago
Anyone who works is doing so for power Grace. Wealth is the power to feed, house, cloth, control your life, extend your interests. Nobody works for any other reason than power.
asb 1 year, 8 months ago
I mostly see that in religious fundamentalism.
asb 1 year, 8 months ago
I'm related to, have lived with, do work with and have neighbors that anybody would classify as fundamentalist. These are usually the people I've heard, and read, saying how we should live, to which mumbo-jumbo we should adhere, what's morally correct, etc. Only vegans have ever told me what to eat, but fundys have been telling me what not to drink, smoke, think, believe and fondle since I was a boy. Do you know what the main difference is between a fundamentalist Christian and a fundamentalist Muslim? Nothing.
Spankthefed 1 year, 8 months ago
Not true ever? What a rediculous statement. There are millions responsible for their own predicament, that made poor choices, that generation by generation continue to do the same thing despite the same results. Whether it is drugs, crime, dropping out, having out of wed lock babies etc. If a Korean immigrant can move into a place and make it why cant these folks? I'm thinking effort. If a Herman cain, the son of a maid and chouffer can make it why not others? Maybe not as far, but make it out of poverty? Effort, better choices, long term goals.
asb 1 year, 8 months ago
My point is that anyone can, but we can't all do it. Horatio Alger was one person. The supe kitchens fo the early 30's were full of incredibly strong, determined, hard working people.
Spankthefed 1 year, 8 months ago
1930's? Please that has nothing to do with 2011, with all the good intentioned safety nets that support the shiftless takers permiating our country today. A program (or removing some) to pry their fannies off the porch and out of the trailer is what is needed not more hand outs or DC playing with more of OUR money. The formula for sucesses is not rocket science, however in a country as free as ours is, individuals are free to mess up their lives, that is why a large percentage are in the places they are, their own poor choices. Prison is a fine example of poor choices.
whatif 1 year, 8 months ago
It is my belief that when you make a choice that is your responsibility, when you take the responsibility for your own choices you make better choices, even if you allow somebody else to make the choice for you that is your choice and it is still your responsibility.
Also, I hear too much about not enough this not enough that to go around....who created that, perhaps the wealthy -- afterall it definitely has served their purpose.
If you believe there is no lack or limitation -- well guess what -- you create, you create, you create. Isn't that really what life is all about????? My guess is, that is what Herman Cain is saying and more power to him! I hope we all give him a thorough looking over. He just might be the change we need....
Just whatif......................
asb 1 year, 8 months ago
To blame the poor for being poor, what else. Actually, it's just simple physics.
whatif 1 year, 8 months ago
Look at our oil companies, drug companies, insurance companies -- what have they created --- a belief that we can't do without them. Don't you ever wonder why there is no progress to eleviate our dependence on any of them? I guess I should have stated companies instead of the wealthy as I know there are many wealthy people out there who are concerned for all, and then there are companies that are only concerned for their own welfare. They have done a good job of it don't you think? Afterall, who do you think really runs this country??? Who can be bought off.....think about it.....
asb 1 year, 8 months ago
Of course any one of us can grab the bull, focus, put our nose to the. . . and Herm did just that. The issue is not what any one of us can do but what most of us or all of us can do. I also agree that there are no absolute limits on what each, or all, of us can do, the economy has always been based on growth and most economies reward initiative. Even if we were all exact clones of Herm Cain, with the same drive and savy, there is no society but the flatest that would allow us all to succede equally.
asb 1 year, 8 months ago
A question. Why won't conservatives support Romney? Why are Perry and Cain, let alone Palin and Bachman, getting the numbers they're getting? Romney is a businessman's dream. His only blemishs appear to be the Massachusetts Healthcare system and the Mormon church. Honestly, next to Mitt, the rest look like goofballs or incontenent extremists. I know that as a Democrat and fascio-socialist bent on destroying America I may not be the best person to promote Romney, and I'm not, but what's with you people? He's a classic, qualified Republican and should already have the nomination sewn up. I know many on the Right think anybody can beat Obama, but you're wrong. That's why I hope for the nut squad to put one of themselves on top but it's not going to happen. Mitt's your boy, your only boy, and until you get behind him and start working on his superiority to Obama, you're getting another four years of your favorite islamo-facist-socialist-destroyer of the USA. Your extreme Ideologies will cost you your best hope. I hope.
Spankthefed 1 year, 8 months ago
Mr. Cain is up by 20% in the latest poll, so much for Mitt.
Romney will never be president, the Morman beliefs are unacceptable to 30 million evangelicals. Cain, however is a Baptist Minister, understand numbers (understatement) and has a plan to dump the IRS, he'll do just fine. The search is over, a couple more weeks and it will solidify. Put Rubio on the ticket and see how thrilled Obama is with lax voter ID laws, Florida will be a lock for the GOP at that point, CA instantly goes into play, and the run will be on!
Cain / Rubio 2012
Spankthefed 1 year, 8 months ago
Predjudice? Voting is a right, and if you don't support a belief that is insulting to your beliefs, you don't vote for it, like any other issue. I guess the left are "predjudice" against pro life candidates, cuz they wont vote for them?
JCLifer 1 year, 8 months ago
Mormons do not believe that Jesus Christ is God. Simple as that.
Spankthefed 1 year, 8 months ago
Disagreeing with the premise that Mormanism IS a religion, and not supporting a candidate with MY vote is not prejudice, it's my choice. Just like it will be my choice to vote for Romney if the choice is a moral person in Romney or an insincere Christian in Obama. Troll on that for a while skippy.
Spankthefed 1 year, 8 months ago
Yes Charles and David Koch, how dare they lobby for lower taxes, less government regulation, and spending......and support Herman Cain, how radical. :>)
Cain / Rubio?
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