According to the 1/2/13 STL,"More than 19,000 people from 23 countries visited the former prison in 2012, generating about $275,000 in revenue _ roughly $35,000 of which was profit..."
Fortunately last year over 19,000 people from 23 countries considered the site worth visiting. So you two think bringing 19,000 people to Jefferson City is not worth it?
And the $35,000 profit is just what the CVB sees, it is not what local restaurants, and other services see in revenue, and the sales taxes on that.
If the site is maintained, the buildings, some of which are eligilble to be listed on the National Register of Historic Places, can continue to draw visitors. But if the buildings continue to deteriorate, there will be nothing for 19,000 and more people to come here to see. So you two are ok with that?
It's unbelievable that the state positions on the MSP Redevelopment Commission are vacant. If the state cannot fill these positions, how can anyone expect the state to do anything? It's either incompetence or political game playing by the governor and it's unacceptable. Why Kehoe, Barnes and Berneskoetter are not aware or demanding that these positions be filled so the commission can hold meetings is stupid. How can these guys claim they are working for our community and yet they allow this level of inefficiency to continue: the governor refusing to fill these positions and the commission unable to get quorums for meetings because of it.
Praise the Lord they passed something this session!
Don't get me wrong, I know this is important to people that want to sell eggs other than chicken eggs. And that is fine. I am all about farmers markets, and buying local food. Maybe one day I will be buying turkey or duck eggs, or whatever eggs, and I will be glad that I can do so.
If this is the only piece of legislation that gets passed, and signed, this session then so be it.
Anyway, I'm glad they got the important stuff out of the way. Redefining eggs, only in Missouri. I know, I know, it's important to turkey, duck and whatever growers. But gosh darn it the budget's important too. I'm just saying.
3blindmice is right, the pedestiran bridge has been wonderful for Jeff City. I'm glad to know that tourist cycling in Missouri generated more than golf or boating.
Maybe one of these days the state will transfer title of the MSP to the MSP Redevelopment Commission and the Discover Jefferson City Foundation will not have to invest so much of their efforts into maintaining the MSP site.
Rob, there's a lot of the Katy Trail between Jeff City and Herman that is not visible from Hwy 94. As a matter of fact many bikers list that part of the trail as their favorite becasue so much of the trail goes through wooded areas, and feels isolated. So I suspect you did not see a lot of the trail Sat. and probably missed more that a couple of bike riders.
You're way wrong there Connor. The pedestrian/bike bridge was paid for a long time ago. I paid for it along wil my neighbors, friends, family and lots of other people here in Jefferson City. Our tax dollars belong to us. We have a right to have them spent here. And that is what happened, along with private fund raising, and private donations.
One biker will spend over $100 on a room at a b & b or hotel. That doesn't include their meals, and if they spend a day here and do some sight-seeing, like go on a prison tour, they spend much more. Remember this story is about a fund raiser to help maintain the MSP site.
I have seen bikers at the Doubletree, they stay at the Baymount, our hiker friend stayed at the Truman Hotel. I've met groups of 7 or more retirees biking on the Katy Trail, people from all over the U.S. Families with school age children are coming to Missouri to ride the Katy Trail and experience the communities along the trail. Now that they can safely bike across the MO River they will happily come here and spend the night, eat in our restaurants, and SPEND THEIR MONEY. I spoke to a b & b owner in Hartsburg this evening, she doesn't advertise at all. She's pretty booked with Katy Trail bikers. If a little lady in Hartsburg is fully booked, with no marketing efforts, I promise you Jefferson City is getting a good number of heads in beds as a result of the Katy Trail.
Rob, maybe you would rather turn your back on the opportunity the Katy Trail offers, and the diverse type of people that want to come here and SPEND THEIR MONEY. But me and the motel owners are delighted with the business. Two reasons they come here is (Lifer, stop reading now, step away from the computer) the bike/pedestrian path and Lifer's favorite, the unique historic character of Jefferson City.
Oh, that reminds me, Lifer thinks all this history is rotten. I just saw a news story that mentioned there is one available retail space in the 100 block of High St. Yeah, all that historical stuff is ruining this town, bringing us down...down...down...
One more jab at Lifer, yes those old buildings will be standing in 2023, and some of they will probably make it to 2123. They were built to last, with materials that will stand for 100s of years if properly maintained. We're lucky if what we build now lasts 50 years.
Did someone say something about getting your head out? They must have been talking to you ol Rob. You're watching the wrong part of the bridge. One of these nice days in May or June, park yourself near where the pedestrian/bike path over the river starts, at W. Main and the freeway. Count the bicycle riders going south, from the north side of the river (Katy Trail) to the south side of the river (Jefferson City). There are a diverse group: young, old, middle age, people with kids, people with pets, people from all over the world. Last week there was a guy hiking the whole Katy Trail. He camped at most places, but a few towns and cities he got a hotel room. Jefferson City was one of them. The guy was walking over 200 miles, and he chose to spend a night in Jefferson City. People are coming to Jefferson City via the Katy Trail, and they are doing so because we have something to offer: great restaurants, unique night spots (Prison Brews, the Mission, Cork) even desirable desserts: Zestos, Central Dairy, Yo Yums. Oh, and did I mention they have money to spend?
Support the Discover Jefferson City Foundation, and you support a group of people working hard to preserve a major attraction - MSP. They are trying to prevent the place from deteriorating, and this fund raiser helps them with that effort. The better the MSP site is for tours, the more people we get here who want to spend their tourism dollars here.
You don't need to change any laws or constitution to take advantage of heritage tourism dollars. Studies have shown that people visitng a city for heritage tourism spend more than other tourists. We get much more of those dollars (via money going to businesses that pay employees, taxes, buy supplies and services here) than we would with many other more expensive attractions.
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sancho 4 days, 8 hours ago on Structural threats next on prison tour
Structural threats next on prison tour
According to the 1/2/13 STL,"More than 19,000 people from 23 countries visited the former prison in 2012, generating about $275,000 in revenue _ roughly $35,000 of which was profit..."
Fortunately last year over 19,000 people from 23 countries considered the site worth visiting. So you two think bringing 19,000 people to Jefferson City is not worth it?
And the $35,000 profit is just what the CVB sees, it is not what local restaurants, and other services see in revenue, and the sales taxes on that.
If the site is maintained, the buildings, some of which are eligilble to be listed on the National Register of Historic Places, can continue to draw visitors. But if the buildings continue to deteriorate, there will be nothing for 19,000 and more people to come here to see. So you two are ok with that?
sancho 6 days, 15 hours ago on Our Opinion: Governor’s inaction stalls MSP project
Our Opinion: Governor’s inaction stalls MSP project
Amen.
sancho 1 week ago on Who’s at the helm of MSP?
Who’s at the helm of MSP?
It's unbelievable that the state positions on the MSP Redevelopment Commission are vacant. If the state cannot fill these positions, how can anyone expect the state to do anything? It's either incompetence or political game playing by the governor and it's unacceptable. Why Kehoe, Barnes and Berneskoetter are not aware or demanding that these positions be filled so the commission can hold meetings is stupid. How can these guys claim they are working for our community and yet they allow this level of inefficiency to continue: the governor refusing to fill these positions and the commission unable to get quorums for meetings because of it.
sancho 1 week, 3 days ago on Definition of eggs expanded
Definition of eggs expanded
Praise the Lord they passed something this session!
Don't get me wrong, I know this is important to people that want to sell eggs other than chicken eggs. And that is fine. I am all about farmers markets, and buying local food. Maybe one day I will be buying turkey or duck eggs, or whatever eggs, and I will be glad that I can do so.
If this is the only piece of legislation that gets passed, and signed, this session then so be it.
Anyway, I'm glad they got the important stuff out of the way. Redefining eggs, only in Missouri. I know, I know, it's important to turkey, duck and whatever growers. But gosh darn it the budget's important too. I'm just saying.
sancho 1 week, 3 days ago on Final budget includes governor's state pay plan
Final budget includes governor's state pay plan
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sancho 1 week, 4 days ago on Tours hope to attract bargeload of tourism
Tours hope to attract bargeload of tourism
3blindmice is right, the pedestiran bridge has been wonderful for Jeff City. I'm glad to know that tourist cycling in Missouri generated more than golf or boating.
Maybe one of these days the state will transfer title of the MSP to the MSP Redevelopment Commission and the Discover Jefferson City Foundation will not have to invest so much of their efforts into maintaining the MSP site.
Rob, there's a lot of the Katy Trail between Jeff City and Herman that is not visible from Hwy 94. As a matter of fact many bikers list that part of the trail as their favorite becasue so much of the trail goes through wooded areas, and feels isolated. So I suspect you did not see a lot of the trail Sat. and probably missed more that a couple of bike riders.
sancho 1 week, 4 days ago on JCAC earns national honor
JCAC earns national honor
This is wonderful news. Congratulations to the JCAC.
sancho 1 week, 6 days ago on Tours hope to attract bargeload of tourism
Tours hope to attract bargeload of tourism
You're way wrong there Connor. The pedestrian/bike bridge was paid for a long time ago. I paid for it along wil my neighbors, friends, family and lots of other people here in Jefferson City. Our tax dollars belong to us. We have a right to have them spent here. And that is what happened, along with private fund raising, and private donations.
sancho 1 week, 6 days ago on Tours hope to attract bargeload of tourism
Tours hope to attract bargeload of tourism
One biker will spend over $100 on a room at a b & b or hotel. That doesn't include their meals, and if they spend a day here and do some sight-seeing, like go on a prison tour, they spend much more. Remember this story is about a fund raiser to help maintain the MSP site.
I have seen bikers at the Doubletree, they stay at the Baymount, our hiker friend stayed at the Truman Hotel. I've met groups of 7 or more retirees biking on the Katy Trail, people from all over the U.S. Families with school age children are coming to Missouri to ride the Katy Trail and experience the communities along the trail. Now that they can safely bike across the MO River they will happily come here and spend the night, eat in our restaurants, and SPEND THEIR MONEY. I spoke to a b & b owner in Hartsburg this evening, she doesn't advertise at all. She's pretty booked with Katy Trail bikers. If a little lady in Hartsburg is fully booked, with no marketing efforts, I promise you Jefferson City is getting a good number of heads in beds as a result of the Katy Trail.
Rob, maybe you would rather turn your back on the opportunity the Katy Trail offers, and the diverse type of people that want to come here and SPEND THEIR MONEY. But me and the motel owners are delighted with the business. Two reasons they come here is (Lifer, stop reading now, step away from the computer) the bike/pedestrian path and Lifer's favorite, the unique historic character of Jefferson City.
Oh, that reminds me, Lifer thinks all this history is rotten. I just saw a news story that mentioned there is one available retail space in the 100 block of High St. Yeah, all that historical stuff is ruining this town, bringing us down...down...down...
One more jab at Lifer, yes those old buildings will be standing in 2023, and some of they will probably make it to 2123. They were built to last, with materials that will stand for 100s of years if properly maintained. We're lucky if what we build now lasts 50 years.
sancho 1 week, 6 days ago on Tours hope to attract bargeload of tourism
Tours hope to attract bargeload of tourism
Did someone say something about getting your head out? They must have been talking to you ol Rob. You're watching the wrong part of the bridge. One of these nice days in May or June, park yourself near where the pedestrian/bike path over the river starts, at W. Main and the freeway. Count the bicycle riders going south, from the north side of the river (Katy Trail) to the south side of the river (Jefferson City). There are a diverse group: young, old, middle age, people with kids, people with pets, people from all over the world. Last week there was a guy hiking the whole Katy Trail. He camped at most places, but a few towns and cities he got a hotel room. Jefferson City was one of them. The guy was walking over 200 miles, and he chose to spend a night in Jefferson City. People are coming to Jefferson City via the Katy Trail, and they are doing so because we have something to offer: great restaurants, unique night spots (Prison Brews, the Mission, Cork) even desirable desserts: Zestos, Central Dairy, Yo Yums. Oh, and did I mention they have money to spend?
Support the Discover Jefferson City Foundation, and you support a group of people working hard to preserve a major attraction - MSP. They are trying to prevent the place from deteriorating, and this fund raiser helps them with that effort. The better the MSP site is for tours, the more people we get here who want to spend their tourism dollars here.
You don't need to change any laws or constitution to take advantage of heritage tourism dollars. Studies have shown that people visitng a city for heritage tourism spend more than other tourists. We get much more of those dollars (via money going to businesses that pay employees, taxes, buy supplies and services here) than we would with many other more expensive attractions.