When it first opening it was a decent place to eat, but after the first 5-6 years they started to change and the price went up and food quality went down then the price dropped and the food got worse we used to go there for breakfast on Saturdays but stopped as half the time the food was cold and you never knew if the bacon would be cooked or raw. Oh and for those who want a Golden Corral they were looking to put one in front of Menards but from what I have heard from the rumor mill and several legit sources the parent company is waiting for a better economic situation before doing more expansion as they already went out of business once in Jeff City.
JCLifer, Madison's has the Sidewalk cafe permit that allows them to have outdoor liquor and several other bar's downtown have that permit as well (High Street Pub and J Pfenny's do, not sure on the Spot or Spectators). Thunderstruck does not have that permit and from what I remember from when it was Southern Comfort they didn't have the permit either.
Fact is we have had the Hotel and lodging tax for several years and that is the money which is going to be used to finance this conference center, not the "transformation" taxes that were defeated that would have expanded and added the hotel etc the conference center. I am ok with the that considering it is not a new tax that we are paying. Problem is that it is still to small. 20,000 sq ft is the same size as the exhibition building at the fairgrounds, as that building is 100x200 and even with another 10,000 sqft of meeting space is not much larger than the expandable meeting areas used at Capital Plaza and Truman Hotels right now for conferences. if they want to continue to pursue this they need to go to a 50,000 sqft center to make any type of additional impact beyond the meeting places that are already in place.
The main reason they want to move the gas chamber is because it is in the area that the city wants as potential land for their conference center. I've been on the tour, it is a trek down there and for some older folks might have a problem with the hike there and back but they could get a van to use to take folks down there and back. To JCsleeper the prison is a historic landmark in this city and parts of it already were razed to build the new courthouse, but the buildings that are left do need to be preserved as this city has ripped so many historic structures downi n the name of progress that we can't afford to let this happen to another.
So you want to make something illegal that is legal now, Do you drink alcohol, lets make it illegal as well, as a drunk driver or a drunk person in public is a heck of a lot worse than a person smoking. Oh wait that was tried once before during a time called prohibition and it didn't work then and won't work now. All making smoking illegal would do is create another criminal market and take tax revenue away that the state and federal governments need to function.
You are exactly right on the money here, Go to the capitol when legislature is in session and see how many Senators and congressmen are smoking in their offices. Are we fining them or the state of Missouri, nope, why because they think they can do anything they want.
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