McChrystal like Patton needed more range practice. They both were prone to figuratively shoot themselves in the foot. Patton is an interesting character, a great American. He hated our WWII allies-the Russians, more than the Germans. He was prone to slap the little people- the wounded under his command. This got him formally reprimanded by General Eisenhower, another great American who made a good and decent Republican President. Eisenhower, by the way, was accused of being a communist sympathizer by that day’s radical right ideologues. Like some threaders, they can find those commie-socialists everywhere!
Patton was no friend of the American citizen soldier. His command theory was more Prussian. Decorated combat WWII vets I knew in civilian life after the war plainly would state not knowing if their death would be from Patton or Hitler! They were probably a bunch of commie-socialists, too!
To say Patton “died for his exercise of free speech” is a confusing, gross overstatement. Your right JMO: Patton died of a pulmonary embolism, which was directly caused by a traffic accident- while on a day trip to hunt German pheasants. Well, they must have been Nazi pheasants. Or, maybe commie-socialist peasants...pheasants?
Historically, generals have often put their foot, not on the ground with their troops, but in their mouth. President Truman dismissed one of his; our current President had to do so to. I read the entire “Stone” article. I only wonder about the judgmental intelligence of a general speaking so openly, badmouthing not only our government, but the political leadership of other countries, (many who were our allies.)
One of our ideologue threaders, I suspect has not read the "Stone" article. McChyrstal and his staff was supportive, had positives, for reactionary right hated Hillary Clinton! It is also not true active military have the same civil rights that civilians enjoy. Can you imagine a weapons company, active combat 1st Sergeant saying the very same things about McChyrstal? Now, threader tell us about those free speech rights!
With military judgement like McChystral, no wonder we are still fighting unwinnable wars.
Lawsuits and a free press make for honesty. They protect citizens against government and corporate tyranny. Most of us have concluded our legislature is the best money can buy. One might enjoy a gin and tonic outside, in open air Cole, but not near Premium Standard Farms in Putnam County without checking the wind direction.
I was driving one late spring across Missouri, Route 136 to be exact. For those that don’t travel northern Missouri, this route takes you through PFS territory and some of the foulest smelling, nostril burning, stomach gagging air imaginable. Mind you, I couldn’t even see the swine barns from the road. I was driving with my windows down, enjoying the warm spring air on public domain. I had to roll them up and keep them up for miles…and miles…and more miles.
Dropping down on State Highway 63, traveling south to Kirksville, my nose was acclimated so the windows came down. Stopping at a Casey’s for coffee, I rolled the windows up while inside. That was a mistake! Once back in my car, I found the smell had permeated the upholstery and carpet. I truly feel for those that have ties to the land- the area, and have to live in this part of northern Corporate Missouri.
Corporate Missouri says to those unfortunate air gaspers- with lower property values, “tough luck.” Passing a limit on lawsuits, our Republican legislature now says, “tougher luck!” The term suck-it-up, along Route 136, becomes literal.
Kristie Scheulen, Loose Creek says we can “…hash, trash and do it all over again.” I thought that was the purpose of voter referendums. Both side presented arguments and voters would decide. Scheulen whines, cries foul after the fact, and references “saturated air waves”…and “lies.” As a voter I thought it was a fair fight, unless of course for the anti-voter, anti- (their)regulation, Republican legislature.
Not only this referendum but there are at least two others, right? Now, tell me if I am wrong. But didn’t the majority of Missourians vote for no pre-billing on nuke electricity? For Inflation indexing the poorest of Missourian’s wages?
It would have been more becoming if Kristie would have referenced being out-spent. But a quote from a rural newspaper well indicates what the majority was up against. Support for puppy mills came from: “Missouri Pork Association, Missouri Cattlemen’s Association, Missouri Soybean Association, Missouri Corn Growers Association, Missouri Farm Bureau, MFA Incorporated, Missouri Beef Industry Council, Inc., Missouri Dairy Association, MO Federation of Animal Owners, Missouri Egg Council, Inc., Missouri Agribusiness Association, FCS Financial, Missouri Dairy Growth Council, Missouri Veterinary Medical Association, Cargill, Missouri Rural Electric Cooperatives, and Missouri Pet Breeders.”
Missouri Corn Growers…? Now, these are people that have, according to the Wall-Street Journal, 40-perecent of our corn crop going to dubious ethanol, making our food prices go up. Our repair bills on small engines, like lawn mowers, go up. Like the Missouri legislature, they don’t want to give us a choice, or abide by that choice.
The Wall-Street Journal also references a veto by Montana’s governor of a voter approved law, saying “it would have gone against the will of the people.” Now, I wouldn’t have voted for that particular law, but I would have respected the majority vote. I hope Jay Nixon is listening to Gov. Brian Schweitzer’s veto.
What do UEE’s retail customers want? Any position neutral surveys we can reference? One threader believes corporations, excluding Ameren, have profit enough to finance all R&D projects. I am left wondering why the most profitable banker Goldman Sachs borrowed 5-billion? I am wondering why Warren Buffet raised money by issuing stock to buy Burlington Northern?
Contrary to some, it is not always wrong to borrow money, issue bonds, or stock. Such financial instruments in a capitalist system act as a break on projects that should never happen. Or, so my banker tells me anyway.
Bluesfan says “it is absolutely illegal for Ameren to make enough profit to finance this themselves.” Maybe the existing shareholders don’t want the risk? The bond market? The investment bankers? Not arguing with Bluesfan, (he does have some good ideas), BUT, if UEE can only do this by a rate-before-service increase, they are not of sufficient size to evenly remotely assume the liability if their “nuke juice” goes sour.
Then we read another threader’s pie in the sky picture: “if a new plant is built ... tremendous economic prosperity for ... Missouri ... Many people will move here ...Real estate will start selling again. Groceries, gas, and beer will be sold in abundance.” Well, if too many people move here, the locals won’t get jobs! Such rosy talk came from the nuke industry long ago. They used to say electricity could be produced so safely, and so cheaply, we wouldn’t even need electric meters- only needing a monthly subscriber fee. We didn’t believe that either.
Taxation without representation is tyranny. Do UEE customers want to foot the bill? Do Missourians want to assume the liability? Not all of us, anyway!
Thank you for the website The Voter Protection Alliance: protectvoters.com.
Yes, I like the vote list! Maybe we could see such listing in more articles. I have always thought the top ten donators should be listed next to a candidate’s name on the ballot too.
Removing the cap of 50 dogs? The dog farmers must not be astute in farming the system as our commodity grain farmers. The USDA’s cap on how much money farmers can receive from the tax payers has a dollar limitation. There were suddenly farms created and “given” to sons, daughters, sons-in-law, daughters-in-law. You get the idea. The Grant Wood American Gothic is long gone. Today, it is corporate farming and highly profitable too.
I am sure the Farm Bureau and Cattlemen thank the legislature for keeping the tax on productive agriculture land artificially low too. It is amazing urban legislators go along with this. The rural school districts, poor because of low artificial real estate assessment laws, thank the urbanities too.
Public utility financing is complex, let alone quoting Ameren’s website, “…nine decades of uninterrupted cash dividend payments to stockholders.”
Well, I did have that fast food today as mentioned, above in this thread. I felt good about my choice, the price, and value. No one forced an additional tax, surcharge, or development fee. I didn’t hear the click of a switchblade forcing me to buy zero return bonds or loan them money without interest after my purchase. What my Favorite Fast Food does with their profits and R & D budget is up to them. Now, if they wanted to develop a moon burger and put the golden arches on Mars, and want me to help them to it beyond their profit from the value of my purchase, I would be concerned and consider it socialism in reverse.
My financial portfolio does include utility stock, tick symbol DTE, PGN. If AEE gets the legislature to have its customers finance development, I will evaluate it as a stock purchase as well. Business is business. Those that wish an additional tax legalized by the legislature for AEE must either already own substantial stock, are employees, pensioned as retirees, or construction workers hoping for a job. They are not, however, believers in free market capitalism. Regulating public monopolies does not preclude bonds, borrowing, or even more cost effective-safer forms of energy generation.
Fast food talk in the thread, mine included, is making me hungry. Considering such fare not fast, not cheap, and not over healthy, I am tempted at times and today is the day!
Utilities are a private, dividend paying monopoly. They exist first for management and the stockholders. As an example, let’s say our favorite Fast Food Joint (FFJ) is a monopoly too. We are required to get all our calories there, and eat there every day.
Your daily cash register lists burger, fries, soft drink, and total amount. But one day, after paying for burger, fries, soft drink, you notice the total is larger. Closely checking the receipt, you notice an extra charge, not related in any way to your purchase value OR their profit. There is a charge allowed by Missouri’s senate to develop a new hamburger, or aid the cattleman to produce the beef. We would be outraged!
Using your monthly electric bill, you notice an additional charge too. This amount, again unrelated to the energy one metered, is for no received value. It is for a future, far distant product development called “nuke juice.” Burgers and “juice” should be developed with corporate profits, not an extra charge that one has no choice in paying.
Ameren says on its website it “prides itself on a long, successful tradition of financial strength…as well as nine decades of uninterrupted cash dividend payments to stockholders.” I am sure Ameren’s shareholders will send a “thank you” card to all getting an extra charge on their bill- not! But I would be surprised if there is not Ameren campaign money already in the Senate.
The senate is debating a tax increase here. The concept of having consumers pay for a product to be developed in the future is a forced tax. It’s a forced transfer of wealth from citizens, and a few that can ill afford it, to private enterprise. Why not sell bonds? Dilute the stock and sell more shares?
Using one of the buzz words of Republicanism, the “uncertainty” of free enterprise would be too great-right? But instead of the free market, why not just tax the people- right?
I say wrong! What’s next Senator Kehoe, do you expect consumers to pay extra at McDonalds to help them develop a new hamburger?
Amazed2 references giving up energy use as in "refusing to drive" and "live[ing] outdoors." If wage and salary earners don't stop seeing our standard of living decline, we may not have a choice. We can only afford to give up so much. The well runs dry.
“From 2005 to 2009, the largest oil companies have made a combined 485 billion in profits.” Watching CNN a few weeks ago, we learned a barrel of oil is speculated- changes hands- many times in a day. Last week, the Wall-Street Journal says Israel has found in shale gas the energy equivalent of all the oil reserves in Saudi Arabia. In the USA drilling rigs operate 24/7 finding more natural gas. Physical supply of crude stored at Cushing, Oklahoma is at an all time high.
So why is gasoline so high? Why was it so high before the Great Recession? Apparently the economic law of supply and demand has become disconnected. Not withstanding OPEC, does Big Oil USA have its own cartel and consumers are the victims? Or is the high cost of energy due to excessive speculation driven by free money given to investment banks and hedge funds?
We don’t have the answers, but we should have suspicions. We do know that with so much profit it influences our political system. Recent congressional voting well indicates Republicans are 100 percent supporters of Big Oil. But, we must not forget our current President took almost one million dollars from BP to run for his first term. Big Oil or Big Energy has its own best interest in mind, no doubt.
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