MoDOT is the "priveledged" child in the State family, they're on the same insurance as Highway Patrol. A lot more perks working for MoDOT. Catered lunches for 2 hour training sessions, some at the Budwieser building in Jeff City. That's a good combo, MoDOT training and beer distributor. Go figure. I am a State employee and although I do get sick of hearing all the State employee bashing, I do see where some of the choices that are made can give us a bad rap. I mean come on, do we really need catered lunches???? I'm capable of bringing my own or buying my own. I hate seeing money being spent just to be spent.
Tonto, all good points, but I think when it comes to safety the "common sense" is shared by more folks than just myself. You said even riding single file is unsafe because cars won't move over and I'm sure getting swiped by a mirror wouldn't be pleasant. But that is exactly my point: Bicyclists and pedestrians are obstacles to drivers. I'm not saying that we, as drivers, shouldn't move over and share the road, but I would not risk my safety riding on 99% of the roads around here. There are entirely too many accidents, close calls, texting while driving, people in a hurry......that split second mistake isn't worth it to me. I'll stick to the Katy Trail.
Thanks for clarifying the legality of riding on the sidewalk. I wasn't sure on that one. But on your point about "things can go wrong quickly" it's seems SO much easier for a bicyclist to avoid kids/pets on a sidewalk going 8 mph than it would be for a large vehicle-vs-bicycle scenario.
Just my opinion, but I still think the roadways are not the ideal place for joggers/bicyclist. But as I mentioned earlier, I will stay alert and share the road. Hopefully others will as well. Thanks for the info Tonto.
I thought they made the bridge primarily for bicyclists? That's how they advertised it anyway. But yes, it seems like it is essentially a sidewalk. But that was a question I had, are bicyclists supposed to use the sidewalks or is that illegal? It just seems more like a safety issue than anything else. Good point though JCLifer.
Thank you HorseGlue. As far as comments from the others, well, thank you too! It's good to see passion about things, whether I agree or not. But....I have read the drivers license manual, and yes bicyclists are to follow the rules as well. My only argument is that many don't. Just as many bad drivers continue to text, drink.....while driving. It's a common sense thing. 80 pound bicycle traveling 8mph on a 30mph road. Riding in the middle of the lane. I look out for these folks and am cautious as possible. Not everyone is. 80lb bike, 2 ton car. The math is pretty simple. But I'm not trying to outlaw bikes or condemn every bicyclist. Let's just move them over and stop riding 2 or 3 wide on a two lane busy road. Is there a problem with riding single file????
One thing I am not sure about is the riding of bicycles on sidewalks. Is that frowned upon, or illegal? Just seems it would be safer. And A LOT easier for walkers/bicyclists to avoid each other on a sidewalk than it is for the bicycle/car scenario.
And I do agree, the sidewalks in many areas are in bad shape. But I typically lift my feet and watch where I'm going when I walk. Sorry, had to be sarcastic.
One last note, since bicyclists DO use the roadways, shouldn't there be a road tax on purchased bicycles???? Makes sense to me. And I would actually not have a problem with that when buying my next mountain bike. I would imagine that taxes on bikes would have covered a big portion of the bill for adding the bike bridge.
Didn't the "bike-bridge" create a lot of jobs? For out of state contractors that is. Maybe I'm wrong on that one. Let me know if I am. I do agree that it was the worse possible time to spend that amount of money for something like this. Actually, I can't see spending that amount of money on something like this even in great economic times! But something bothers me that relates closely to this topic of bicyclists, and even pedestrians. First off, I do ride my bike on the Katy Trail, so I'm not "anti-bicyclist". But how is the law written when it comes to right of way and using sidewalks? Example: Many areas, such as W. Main for one, has sidewalks running on both sides. Why do walkers and joggers insist on using the road instead of the sidewalks? If a jogger is running in the road, while a perfectly good sidewalk is present, am I, the driver of a 2-ton vehicle, responsible for driving into the opposite lane so I don't hit this person (who for some reason doesn't even feel compelled to jog close to the edge of the road, instead they have to get as far in the lane as possible). Would I get a ticket, such as I would in Columbia, for honking at this yahoo who doesn't have the common sense to stay clear? The same goes for those groups of bicyclists (you know who you are, in your spandex and shiny, pointy helmets) who insist on not riding single file, but choose to ride 2, 3, or more side-by-side, in the CAR lane. Speed limit is 45, I have slow or stop and wait for oncoming traffic to pass just so I can get completely out of my lane and drive around this group. Where is the common sense in this??? Drivers must always be on the look out for pedestrians and cyclists in residential neighborhoods, I'm a firm believer in that. Especially with children who often are too involved in the fun they are having while riding a bike or playing. I will always keep an eye out for those situations. What bothers me are the supposed grown-ups who should know better by now that you DO NOT ride, walk, or jog in a car lane! And if you insist on doing so, please stay as close to the edge of the road as possible. Don't rely on the false notion that every driver is NOT texting or paying attention and will see you. Again, I'm a bike rider and avid walker. But I don't do so in areas where I interfere with vehicles. It's not worth the risk to myself or them.
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