Come to the Stable, and what get treated like cattle or sheep? Why isn't this group doing something for victims. I not talking about the un-raped. I'm talking about the kids already harmed. Why is attempting to bring down an autocratic Prince, who certainly deserves to be held responsible for his actions, why is that better than doing something for the people you should be doing something for, the already raped. What's been done for them ? How does that escape these Jesus loving people? For the life of me, I don't get it.
Why are we, the victims, always reminded by SNAP that we need to do this or we need to that and that our, the victims, silence is awful.
The silence from the pews is what's awful. It's their kids that are in jeopardy.
And SNAP says, victims must find the "courage" to do this or that. And that we need to "get educated". And we need to "heal". You know,
my healing is none of your damned buisiness!
First: Judy Jones is not a victim. Her "leadership" implies that we victims except Blain and Clohessy are too ashamed to lead ourselves. Utter nonsense.
Second: I wouldn't trust SNAP to help me heal, as far as I could throw them. Why? They aint therapists.
It took me 6 years of "dealing" with SNAP and it's complete lack of democracy, to find out they were in fact created by the Dominicans. Look at SNAP's NPO documents at Victims of Silence@ Bulletinboards.com.
Do you believe any of us,victims, were told about SNAP's founding? Never! Blaine just whipped SNAP up at her kitchen table. Ha!
I ,since I was 20 years old and I'm 65 now, have never lacked courage to tell of my abuse. Some victims are afraid, I get that. But SNAP infers we are " courageous" if we " follow" them. And how "sad" they are and very upset when we don't.
Have you ever heard of any "movement" that never explains how it makes it's choices and who makes it's choices? I haven't. But we are "courageous" All we have to do is follow them. This is beyond pathetic. It is fraud, pure and simple. SNAP created by the Church as honey to pull the victims to them. We are "survivors" we do wish to "network". We were "abused by priests" (This latest twist of expanding SNAP's mission to Jews and Protestants and Boy Scouts is another scam to make Catholic clerical abuse just another, in a long list of abusers, almost normal.)But in truth SNAP delivers nothing of what it pretends to offer. Why? Because SNAP is the Church.
What are we supposed to be "educated" about, Judy? Child raping is not good? As a victim, I know that. I'm not silent Judy. Unlike SNAP I don't tell people to first go to the police then go to some meeting, where someone other than victims or those present decide how victims should "behave". SNAP does that Judy why? Why should victims follow SNAP and leaflet? Where is it written that that's a great idea and should be done, Judy? Maybe since you are not a victim, you don't know.
I support any tactic that brings therapy and compensation to the raped FIRST. Anything else is obfuscation. And SNAP knows plenty about that.
This tactic of leafleting churches is questionable to me. I'm a victim who has leafleted and always felt uncomfortable with that behavior and the picture above says why. Embaressing Catholic parents in front of their kids doesn't seem to be the best way to get them on our side. That is if your really trying to get them on our side.
Maybe this ploy is used by these "victims"" groups to alienate the people in the pews. Maybe these victims groups are not controlled by the victims but by somebody else. Some one who wants to drive these criminals deeper into their vestments, myths and titles. So that the people in the pews will feel it's their religion that's being attacked and not the individual citizens who've committed the crimes.
I know from personal experience with SNAP as an example. There is no democracy in SNAP. No decisions on policy or behavior has ever been decided democratically there. Remind you of any related dog in this fight? It sure does me.
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jimrobertson 1 year ago on Advocacy group marks date of seminary closing
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Come to the Stable, and what get treated like cattle or sheep? Why isn't this group doing something for victims. I not talking about the un-raped. I'm talking about the kids already harmed. Why is attempting to bring down an autocratic Prince, who certainly deserves to be held responsible for his actions, why is that better than doing something for the people you should be doing something for, the already raped. What's been done for them ? How does that escape these Jesus loving people? For the life of me, I don't get it.
jimrobertson 1 year ago on Roundtable set for clergy victims
Roundtable set for clergy victims
Why are we, the victims, always reminded by SNAP that we need to do this or we need to that and that our, the victims, silence is awful. The silence from the pews is what's awful. It's their kids that are in jeopardy. And SNAP says, victims must find the "courage" to do this or that. And that we need to "get educated". And we need to "heal". You know, my healing is none of your damned buisiness! First: Judy Jones is not a victim. Her "leadership" implies that we victims except Blain and Clohessy are too ashamed to lead ourselves. Utter nonsense. Second: I wouldn't trust SNAP to help me heal, as far as I could throw them. Why? They aint therapists. It took me 6 years of "dealing" with SNAP and it's complete lack of democracy, to find out they were in fact created by the Dominicans. Look at SNAP's NPO documents at Victims of Silence@ Bulletinboards.com. Do you believe any of us,victims, were told about SNAP's founding? Never! Blaine just whipped SNAP up at her kitchen table. Ha! I ,since I was 20 years old and I'm 65 now, have never lacked courage to tell of my abuse. Some victims are afraid, I get that. But SNAP infers we are " courageous" if we " follow" them. And how "sad" they are and very upset when we don't. Have you ever heard of any "movement" that never explains how it makes it's choices and who makes it's choices? I haven't. But we are "courageous" All we have to do is follow them. This is beyond pathetic. It is fraud, pure and simple. SNAP created by the Church as honey to pull the victims to them. We are "survivors" we do wish to "network". We were "abused by priests" (This latest twist of expanding SNAP's mission to Jews and Protestants and Boy Scouts is another scam to make Catholic clerical abuse just another, in a long list of abusers, almost normal.)But in truth SNAP delivers nothing of what it pretends to offer. Why? Because SNAP is the Church.
jimrobertson 1 year ago on JudyJones
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What are we supposed to be "educated" about, Judy? Child raping is not good? As a victim, I know that. I'm not silent Judy. Unlike SNAP I don't tell people to first go to the police then go to some meeting, where someone other than victims or those present decide how victims should "behave". SNAP does that Judy why? Why should victims follow SNAP and leaflet? Where is it written that that's a great idea and should be done, Judy? Maybe since you are not a victim, you don't know. I support any tactic that brings therapy and compensation to the raped FIRST. Anything else is obfuscation. And SNAP knows plenty about that.
jimrobertson 1 year ago on Roundtable set for clergy victims
Roundtable set for clergy victims
This tactic of leafleting churches is questionable to me. I'm a victim who has leafleted and always felt uncomfortable with that behavior and the picture above says why. Embaressing Catholic parents in front of their kids doesn't seem to be the best way to get them on our side. That is if your really trying to get them on our side. Maybe this ploy is used by these "victims"" groups to alienate the people in the pews. Maybe these victims groups are not controlled by the victims but by somebody else. Some one who wants to drive these criminals deeper into their vestments, myths and titles. So that the people in the pews will feel it's their religion that's being attacked and not the individual citizens who've committed the crimes. I know from personal experience with SNAP as an example. There is no democracy in SNAP. No decisions on policy or behavior has ever been decided democratically there. Remind you of any related dog in this fight? It sure does me.