Rob - here's just a simple nugget of research I've done on DESE data.
There are 53 schools in MO with a total 9-12 enrollment above 1,200. I picked 1,200 because if Jeff City were to build a 2nd HS - it's enrollment from day one would almost 1,300 so I wanted to compare apples to apples.
When you rank those school districts not by total enrollment but by enrollment / building they have in their district - here's what you find:
Highest 50% In Population / Building (Schools w/ more kids per building):
--Avg Dropout Rate: 2.2%
--Avg ACT Score: 22.22
--Avg Teacher/Student Ratio: 17.84
Lowest 50% In Population / Building (Schools w/ less kids per building):
--Avg Dropout Rate: 4.1%
--Avg ACT Score: 21.21
--Avg Teacher / Student Ratio: 18.12
This is actual data compiled from DESE. I know facts will get in the way of a good story sometime - but there's no statistical correlation in the DESE data between total # of kids / building and academic performance or retention.
If you'd like to go over the full dataset - my offer still stands - any time any place - you name it.
Rob - so if I read you correctly - you're for two high schools because that's what you've experienced personally both yourself and through your extended family... that's great - that's your experience and that's fine.
But at least be honest and say that you have no DATA that clearly demonstrates that smaller schools produce better students and that you have no facts or research that shows academies aren't a better model of education.
You can be against one high school - but just be honest with readers and say it's for personal emotional reasons and not based on data and research. The only source you've quoted is Wikipedia - which is pretty revealing. It's obvious that your personal bias flavors all of your comments. It's also obvious that you're asking us to accept your opinion as the way to go. Well - when your opinion doesn't have supporting facts, data, or research to back it up - it's just a feeling and I (along with most people) don't want multi-million dollar decisions being made on someone's feelings.
I would encourage you to study the data. Go to DESE's website and get the numbers yourself. As a matter of fact - I've already done that and would be glad to sit down and go over them with you. You name the time and place.
Rob - quit using a web site returned to you in a Google Search and go download ACTUAL DESE data as reported by the schools themselves.
Rob - there was site selection committee that looked at over 20 potential sites that met the site criteria. They did this over a period of 6 months. They did their due diligence. This was the best available site in JC with owners who were willing to sell property to JCHS.
Well - call me guilty then. I'm proud to be guilty. This is the best option for secondary education in Jefferson City and the data and numbers prove it out. World class education here in JC, the most fiscally responsible option for taxpayers, and allowing for the expansion of a higher education corridor in JC as well. We'll let the people decide what they want in April.
Tickled - there's not ONE school in the top 53 schools (total student enrollment) that has a graduation rate of 99%. Check DESE data. Your statement is false.
We looked at that as a committee. And it was a strong option. The current proposal is better. It provides state-of-the-art facilities, disrupts the learning process for current students less, and allows for the expansion of a higher-education corridor here in Jefferson City with Lincoln and Linn State.
The land on 179 was bought for 27,000/acre which is less than what St. Mary's paid for a similar sized tract of land. It's not expensive land and is perfectly situated and suited for the new school. There's also almost 5 million of improvements that St. Mary's paid for that we don't have to. Once again, the school board and Dr. Mitchell have demonstrated tremendous fiscal prudence for the taxpayer.
Well your comments lead me and everyone reading them that you're for two schools no matter what the data or fiscal reason suggest. To blindly say two schools is better than one with no supporting data to back that up is the kind of thinking that has led to Jefferson City being a declining stagnant city.
As far as not hearing about the land purchase or knowing anything about it suggests that you haven't been paying attention to the last three years. This wasn't sprung on voters. This has been a deliberate intentional process that has taken place over 36 months.
The more people hear that (as this article evidences) the more they understand the reasoning, financial sense, and academic promise the current proposal holds to.
Uhh - ok. Considering we have a Realtor on the school board and I've talked with the owners of the #2 Real-Estate company in JC - I think I or the SSSC committee would have heard that loud and clear sometime in the last 3 years. Truth is, we haven't, because it isn't the case.
The reasons people aren't moving to Jefferson City are numerous and complex. To say that because we have one school is the reason is foolish and a gross over-simplification of the issue.
Rob - so what? Does the fact that they're smaller in total enrollment mean that they're outperforming us academically? Does it mean that their students are superior to our graduates? If you think that, show me the data that proves it.
I've looked at the data. I've researched it heavily. And the truth is that yes those schools have smaller total population / building than we do. But we're outperforming a lot of them and we're paying SIGNIFICANTLY less property tax as well.
Is your argument that "Well. those schools are smaller, we should go be like those schools"? If those schools are outperforming us, then you have an argument. But they're not and so "doing what they do" won't accomplish the intended outcome which is to provide a world-class education to our graduates right here in JC.
BTW - each of the 7 academies will only have 300-500 students in them. That's 66% less per building than the average of the top 53 high schools in the state.
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