RussellCrawford

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RussellCrawford 2 years, 3 months ago

The abortion issue should control this election. It is a fact that all the "old" pro life arguments are no longer valid. There are now 6 scientific laws that control abortion for people to consider. Those laws make it clear that it is impossible to determine that there is "life at conception". In fact the scientific laws show that if is impossible to tell at conception if a zygote/embryo/fetus is alive or will be alive at birth and if the zygote has enough human DNA to live as a human. The laws also make it clear that it is impossible to force the birth of a fetus without causing the death of a born person. It is important that all people read and learn these scientific laws: google naturalabortionlaws.com

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asb 2 years, 3 months ago

As a pro-choice advocate with many pages in these forums about the lack of a clear point at which a human cell, of any kind, can be considered a being, your argument seems almost nonsene. Not it's intent, good on you there, but don't put your personal "scientific law" out there as anything relevant. It is chillingly ignorant. And your phrase that every forced birth causes a death is wrong and destructive to a good cause. You decieve by not telling people that the web site you point to is your own. Reading it is embarassing. Yes, people need knowledge about biology, and this election will be quite a bit about abortion and other health issues, but you, Russel, do a disservice to the pro-choice effort and should go to bed for two months until this is over. You're a pamphleteer on the side of an argument that suffers from your efforts. Sorry.

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Dan 2 years, 3 months ago

Russell, your argument makes no sense. The plain, inconvenient, simple fact is that, if left alone, life will result. You can split hairs all you want but that's the facts.

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RussellCrawford 2 years, 3 months ago

Asb said: "As a pro-choice advocate with many pages in these forums about the lack of a clear point at which a human cell, of any kind, can be considered a being, your argument seems almost nonsene."

An accusation without an explanation is a waste of your time. The fact is that until the DNA of the genotype "expresses" the correct phenotype, one cannot tell if there is life or if the life is human. If you think you can dispute this scientific fact, the do so.

" Not it's intent, good on you there, but don't put your personal "scientific law" out there as anything relevant. It is chillingly ignorant."

You are just jealous, if it were more than that you would substantiate your claims. And of course you cannot.

"And your phrase that every forced birth causes a death is wrong and destructive to a good cause . "

Scientific law shows that more people are dying than can be saved. ( "The law of Charity"). If you can disprove that, which you cannot, then you might be correct. But you are simply jealous and are making statements you cannot support.

"You decieve by not telling people that the web site you point to is your own."

My name is at the head of the web site. You are the one concealing your identity.

" Reading it is embarassing." Of course that is an attempt at an ad hominem fallacy. People that result to such fallacies have no argument and are simply attempting to discredit others with insults. Sorry, they make you look bad, not me.

"Yes, people need knowledge about biology, and this election will be quite a bit about abortion and other health issues, but you, Russel, do a disservice to the pro-choice effort and should go to bed for two months until this is over. You're a pamphleteer on the side of an argument that suffers from your efforts. Sorry."

Of course that is also a completely invalid ad hominem fallacy. It is clear to those looking for answers that if you had an argument, you would make it. It is a scientific fact that until the DNA of the genotype expresses the correct phenotype one cannot tell if there is life at conception. I am truly sorry that you are so jealous that you cannot accept science over your emotion and must resort to fallacy to support your insecurity.

Of course you are welcome to showcase some more jealousy, but I invite you to debate the issues and stop with the fallacies.

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RussellCrawford 2 years, 3 months ago

Dan said: "Russell, your argument makes no sense. The plain, inconvenient, simple fact is that, if left alone, life will result. You can split hairs all you want but that's the facts."

Your answer is scientifically incorrect. If left alone most zygotes/embryos/fetuses die. 70 percent die in the first trimester and 15% die later. That is a scientific fact. It is also a scientific fact that if you have a choice Dan, you may choose to save a baby or let it die and attempt to save a dead fetus. The sad part is that most pro lifers intentionally choose to let babies die.

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