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Today's Poll!Show me the money: Record jackpot brings out occasional players
Mr. Convenience cashier Judy Scherr, right, waits on customer Jane Russell as Russell purchases a Powerball ticket for tonight’s drawing. Photo by Julie Smith.
Wednesday, November 28, 2012
Jefferson City residents have been making their way to convenience and grocery stores to buy Powerball tickets even though many don’t believe they have a good chance of winning the record prize.
Harl Heflin of Jefferson City bought one ticket at Mr. Convenience at the corner of East McCarty and Monroe Streets. “I just buy when it gets high,” he said. “I don’t have any big plans if I win, but I’ve got a lot of kids, so it wouldn’t be hard to find something. I doubt I win, but it’s worth a shot.”
“We’ve been busy the last couple of days,” said store manager Todd Scherr.
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Comments
bertd 5 months, 3 weeks ago
Wonder how many of these people, who can afford lottery tickets, that the government is forcing me to support, in some manner.
spelchek 5 months, 3 weeks ago
Obama voters hoping to luck their way to the evil 1%....LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
RobHunterJohnson 5 months, 3 weeks ago
I wonder if any of the self righteous Romney voters will play lottery, trying to lift themselves above the 47% mark! Rob
spelchek 5 months, 3 weeks ago
Poor Rob. Doesn't like seeing facts thrown around. Guess what? I used to pay federal income taxes, now I do not putting me in the 47%. One day, I will again. Until then I do not begrudge someone putting facts on the table by stating that almost half this country does not pay federal income taxes yet they want more from those who do (like yourself). I personally want people to keep what they earn, they deserve it. This is the part where I don't take offense because I have pitched in, currently don't, but know I will again (unless Obama is successful). You take offense because you fit in to the 47% however you loathe success and what comes with it....money. Thus, you rant on about how those contributing to the pot are not contributing enough because you spite and covet their success which you seem to either not be able to, or unwilling to achieve your income through risk, hard work, and a little luck. My previous comment is apt. Now.....what are the odds if a Democrat wins the lottery and have to pay the desired Obama tax rates on the "rich" that they will become Republican. Careful what you wish for.
Sequoia 5 months, 3 weeks ago
So, he's in the 47 percent because he "loathes success." I'm sure he does. He probably hates puppies and sunsets, too.
So why are you? Through which talk-show stereotype should I view you? Lazy? Afraid of hard work? Afraid of risk? Lack of morals? Unlucky? A taker not a maker?
All through the election, I heard the conservative movement explain that not paying income tax is a sign of some form of degeneracy.
Whew, I can smell the stink of failure all the way over here!
JCLifer 5 months, 3 weeks ago
Another greedy white man, no doubt.
connor 5 months, 3 weeks ago
The only failure any Conservative mentioned associated with not paying income tax was the failure of the government as I remember it. Especially all those programs that allow 47% of the tax payers to get more back than they put in, which was the real point of Romney's 47% remark.
Sequoia 5 months, 3 weeks ago
Connor, you better refresh your memory. Romney's point was that people who don't pay income tax don't take personal responsibility and don't care for their lives. Those are the exact words he used.
I copied the quote below. It clearly equates not paying federal income taxes with personal failings. I think the "real point" is quite clear.
Quote:
“There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that’s an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what...
“Our message of low taxes doesn’t connect...so my job is is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. What I have to do is convince the five to 10 percent in the center that are independents, that are thoughtful....”
connor 5 months, 3 weeks ago
And in that entire presentation he blamed that on the failure of the government and how it created the entitlement attitude. He did not call those people lazy. Saying someone believes they are entitled to something is not saying they are lazy, afraid of hardwork etc. It says they believe they are owed something.
Typical Cleftwing word/intent twisting but it works so you might as well keep it up.
Littleinvestor 5 months, 3 weeks ago
47 percent do not get more money back than they pay in. Many ELDERLY people who are 70, 80, 90 years old pay no income tax although they used to pay income tax. They are in that 47 percent, which Romney is smart enough to know. He called those old people takers. I agree no one should get more back than they put in, but some people either have so little income or so many deductions, they pay no federal income tax. They pay sales and other taxes though. "Broadening the base" is code for TAX the Poor, sick and infirm for some people.
spelchek 5 months, 3 weeks ago
Your words: "So, he's in the 47 percent because he "loathes success."
If you wish to have convenient amnesia when it comes to posting that is your prerogative. RHJ has continually bashed the rich and so have you. If you wish to ignore that even though RHJ and I can (now) be placed in the same category but have different philosophies on wealth and government confiscation, that is your problem. Obama can bash his fellow Americans and you find that justified. Romney can bash his fellow Americans and you actively seek out long winded quotes that in long run don't amount to hill of beans. You are a conservative who thinks Obama is moderate which should be an indicator that I shouldn't even respond to your hypocrisy. You actively ignore reality and create your own like: "the conservative movement......not paying income tax.......is degeneracy." The problem isn't paying income tax, it's not paying and asking others to do more so you can have more. Once those paying give up and join the government dependent class, where will the money come from? You? Let's raise taxes on the rich (which a dem controlled congress could have done in 2010 but lacked the spine to) and see what happens.
connor 5 months, 3 weeks ago
I wonder what the Lottery people will think when the Obama voters buy 2 tickets but turn in 3 winners?
newone 5 months, 3 weeks ago
I wonder when Romney supports will get over the fact that Obama has won and stop making EVERY news tribune article about Obama, it truly makes you look petty. Your actions are only driving people farther and farther away from the republican party, you are coming across as sore losers and spoiled sports, accept it and move on already.
spelchek 5 months, 3 weeks ago
A. I don't Romney "supports", I voted against Obama.
B. Obama is President, but you wouldn't know by Bush running the show the past four years. Ask Rob HJ.
C. You can't handle the truth. Obama created class warfare, now his voters are lining in droves to become what they voted against. Reality hurts when you're not willing to accept it.
JCLifer 5 months, 3 weeks ago
It has nothing to do with being good "sports" about winning or losing. It has everything to do with the Constitution of the United States of America and for this country's survival. This isn't some game. It is about our freedom. It is about our American way of life. It is about free market economy vs. socialism. It is about our right to seek happiness vs. an entitlement to take others's happiness away from them.
newone 5 months, 3 weeks ago
Your right it isn't a game!!!
RobHunterJohnson 5 months, 3 weeks ago
If you don't like it don't play, it is simple as that, but to lump everyone who plays in as a President Obama supporter is ridiculis. It shows us where your Brain Cells are short; Spelck I have made a Modest income for many years, even in the years where the Republicans have just about destroyed the Construction Industry, and in my lifetime I know when I have worked, when I have not, and who was in charge. I save, I spend, and I hope I have invested correctly! I am not part of the 47%, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THEIR PROBLEMS, SOMETHING SOME ON THIS PAGE WITH SUCH SHALLOW MINDS HAVE NOT A CLUE TO! Oh by the way I bought 5 tickets to the power ball game, so maybe I can help some of those 47% who really need help if I was to win. You won't find me in the 2nd pew on the left, but maybe occaisionly in the back somewhere! Rob
spelchek 5 months, 3 weeks ago
"If you don't like it don't play, it is simple as that, but to lump everyone who plays in as a President Obama supporter is ridiculis" -- Never did, just wondered if there were hypocrites playing. A rhetorical question if you will.
RobHunterJohnson 5 months, 3 weeks ago
I will stick with my first thought! Rob
RobHunterJohnson 5 months, 3 weeks ago
A Family member over the weekend said, " Do you think its fair to make some pay up to 39%?" I responded: I paid 17% last year and Romney paid 14%, there is no comparison between my income and his? FAIR, my income is mere drivel, you tell me where that is fair spck? Rob
connor 5 months, 3 weeks ago
That wholly depends on how that 14% was figured. If a taxpayers goes from 30% to 14% rate because the government has given him a tax break of say 50K for investing 120K in a particular area meaning the government didn't have to then it is very fair. Same goes with charity donations that lessen the need for government to spend in those areas.
tonto_goldberg 5 months, 3 weeks ago
connor, your response is speculative and overly complex, when we already know better. Romney's tax rate was lower than Rob's because Romney had mostly investment income which gets preferential rates as compared to earned income.
connor 5 months, 3 weeks ago
Because the taxes on investment dollars have already been paid.
This simply means the taxes on investment returns is lower than they are on initial income. This is to encourage investment so the government doesn't have to fund the growth itself. Seems like a win win to me but in today's class warfare scenario any excuse to stir up trouble and gain votes so that's fine kill investment incentives put more financial strain on the government.
connor 5 months, 3 weeks ago
As a matter of fact why not tax muni bond revenue? Why let the government provide a means to encourage investors to invest in government spending while discouraging private sector investment? When that investor get's his or her interest back from the muni he or she will appear to have paid less taxes than someone who didn't lend the government money to use.
tonto_goldberg 5 months, 3 weeks ago
Again, there is a simple explanation for this situation that evades you. It's simple math. Since tax exempt bonds support entities that rely on tax revenues to keep the doors open, that entity would have to collect more taxes to pay the increased interest if the interest was taxable.
tonto_goldberg 5 months, 3 weeks ago
Speculative and illogical, again, and then you compound it with an unrealistic projection of what might happen if everything goes the way you planned. How many times has that happend for you, really?
Investment capital doesn't very often come from previous earnings. Most of it is borrowed. Only the very rich or the very foolish look at tax savings first - investment has to be made with the hope of making a profit. If you are very lucky and your investment succeeds, then you have the fortunate job of planning the takeout. Then it is time to consider the tax aspects.
The venture capital business is unique, since they have special legal provisions letting them take out their ordinary income without paying tax. There are a number of ways to do it, but neither you nor I get to use them.
RobHunterJohnson 5 months, 3 weeks ago
So if I got this right Romney did nothing for his money but count it? Rob
connor 5 months, 3 weeks ago
And use it to help create jobs, GDP and more taxes. The theory is, which I am sure you don't believe, that by encouraging no taxes on investment income people will invest and therefore create more actual tax revenue. By raising taxes on investment dividends, revenue etc. you discourage investment which means those sink the money into tangible inventory that really doesn't help anyone but will typically raise commodity prices.
newone 5 months, 3 weeks ago
The only "jobs" Romney created were the ones that were sent over seas!
3633 5 months, 3 weeks ago
What does the Lottery have to do with politics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Live Life, Love, Be Happy!!!!!!!!!!!!
newone 5 months, 3 weeks ago
NOTHING, but a few in here make every story about Obama and how he hates this country. They are rediculous!
spelchek 5 months, 3 weeks ago
It doesn't, just hypocrisy by the left. I'm sure all walks of life would like to win, even rich people. The difference is a Conservative would look at the rich person winning and say, lucky duck. A Liberal would look at the rich person win and say, that isn't "fair".
asb 5 months, 3 weeks ago
No, the "liberal" would just say "lucky duck, now pay the built-in tax, and a reasonable tax on any investment income that accrues from that win." That's it Spel, just participate financially.
RobHunterJohnson 5 months, 3 weeks ago
It did not have anything to do with it until some rich guy had to throw a jab, and does not like the responce he recieved! He voted against Obama, I voted for him because there was no better choice, and he was right for all of us including Spck, and all the others who are not smart enough to figure it out! Rob
connor 5 months, 3 weeks ago
At this point I am all for taxing the rich. Let the Federal government have at it. The paltry amount they are going to get will be nothing compared to the loss in tax revenue it generates when investors begin pulling out or continue pulling out I should say. Not to mention the rise in commodity prices and farmland values will go through the roof, not that they haven't already been going through the roof anyway.
As retirees go to hit their 401's and Roths and see the tax rate on the investment income they have to pay, the screaming will be deafening. Which brings up another interesting point about government backed pension funds and if those funds are charged a dividend or revenue tax. I am going to look into that.
asb 5 months, 3 weeks ago
If there's not going to be much, then why is being fought so hard, and why would investors care? A few percent of our citizens own nearly all of our assets and make the vast majority of our income. How could fairly taxing those assets and income not be a massive revenue boost?
connor 5 months, 3 weeks ago
It has to do with what we call income. A large part of corporate income is counted that never makes it to our sh-ores (OMG Sh-ores is a bad word? I so dislike NT's captcha) and therefore is not taxed. The company can count it for it's investors but if they keep it in foreign holdings it isn't taxed. Wealth on the other hand is also calculated using a large amount of non-liquid assets that in do not give an actual return in pro=portion to the wealth they are counted as.
There is your jump from so called fair tax to seizing property ala Communist Russia because unless you are going to physically take property you will no where near get the tax revenue the US needs to cover the massive spending.
Collectivist farming anyone?
stop1 5 months, 3 weeks ago
You know the government has accomplished their goal when they've been able to get the people to argue amongst themselves about who should have to pay rather than coming together to tell the Government to stop reckless spending so none of us have to pay so much.
spelchek 5 months, 3 weeks ago
Agreed, Government overspent and created a "cliff" for which they would like to avoid blame by blaming "the rich" for their ineptitude.
JCLifer 5 months, 3 weeks ago
So long government: - OF the PEOPLE - BY the PEOPLE and - FOR the PEOPLE.
Welcome to the government: - OF the CZARS - BY the LIBERALS - FOR the TAKERS..
RobHunterJohnson 5 months, 3 weeks ago
So if your on SS you are a Taker? Rob
spelchek 5 months, 3 weeks ago
If you didn't pitch into the pot, by definition, yes.
RobHunterJohnson 5 months, 3 weeks ago
I and my employers have pitched into the pot by the Definition of $300,000. and I have 6 years to go? I get 1200. at 62 please do the math, that will take me to 81, if you wish to call me a taker then go right ahead, because there are a lot of participating takers on these pages right now, or future takers later! When its their turn to take they will partake, whether they like the idea of it, or not. So it is time to fix these programs rather than to tear them apart. I have paid my fair share up to this point, and so have alot of you, so go make all this debt up some where else, like maybe some more taxes. Be creative! Solve the problem instead of complaining about it through cheap rhetoric. Rob
JCLifer 5 months, 3 weeks ago
Oh hell yeah! I'm nuzzling up to the teat with all the other rats trying to get my fair share. I am entitled to a good life if they are too.
RobHunterJohnson 5 months, 3 weeks ago
What is your solution Lifer? Spellck? If we let Stop1 have their way, we would be back to the same situation they were in in the 20s or 30s? When stop1 reaches that age? Will this person really save enough? We cannot even get people to save in this day in age? Here today gone tommorrow! Maybe they will win the LOTTERY tonight! Rob
stop1 5 months, 3 weeks ago
SS was and is a joke. Just another way for the Government to take our money. People were never supposed to live long enough to collect.
Littleinvestor 5 months, 3 weeks ago
Yet millions have. Some conspiracy.
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