Obama voices support for gay marriage
Wednesday, May 9, 2012
WASHINGTON (AP) — On the fence no longer, President Barack Obama declared his unequivocal support for gay marriage on Wednesday, a historic announcement that gave the polarizing social issue a more prominent role in the 2012 race for the White House.
The announcement was the first by a sitting president, and Republican challenger Mitt Romney swiftly disagreed with it. “I believe that marriage is between a man and a woman,” he said while campaigning in Oklahoma.
Gay rights advocates cheered Obama’s declaration, which they had long urged him to make. Beyond the words, one man who married his gay partner in Washington, D.C., was stirred to send a $25 contribution to the president’s campaign. “Making a contribution is the best way to say thank you,” said Stuart Kopperman.
Obama revealed his decision after a series of events that made clear the political ground was shifting. He once opposed gay marriage but more recently had said his views were “evolving.”
In an interview with ABC in which he blended the personal and the presidential, Obama said “it wouldn’t dawn” on his daughters, Sasha and Malia, that some of their friends’ parents would be treated differently than others. He said he also thought of aides “who are in incredibly committed monogamous same-sex relationships who are raising kids together.”
Obama added that he thought about “those soldiers or airmen or Marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf, and yet feel constrained even though now that ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ is gone because they’re not able to commit themselves in a marriage.”
The president said he was taking a personal position. Aides said the president’s shift would have no impact on current policies and he continues to believe that marriage is an issue best decided by states.
“I have hesitated on gay marriage in part because I thought that civil unions would be sufficient,” Obama said in the interview. He added, “I was sensitive to the fact that for a lot of people the word ‘marriage’ was something that evokes very powerful traditions, religious beliefs and so forth.”
Now, he said, “it is important for me personally to go ahead and affirm that same-sex couples should be able to get married.”
He spoke on the heels of a pair of events that underscored the sensitivity of an issue that has long divided the nation.
Vice President Joe Biden said in an interview on Sunday he is completely comfortable with gays marrying, a pronouncement that instantly raised the profile of the issue. White House aides insisted the vice president hadn’t said anything particularly newsworthy, but gay rights groups cited Biden’s comments in urging the president to announce his support.
On Tuesday, voters in North Carolina — a potential battleground in the fall election — approved an amendment to the state constitution affirming that marriage may only be a union of a man and a woman.
Additionally, several of the president’s biggest financial backers are gay, and some have prodded him publicly to declare his support for same-sex marriage.
Senior administration officials said Obama came to the conclusion gay couples should have the right to legally marry earlier this year and had planned to make his views known publicly before the Democratic National Convention in early September. They conceded Biden’s comments accelerated the timeline, but said the vice president’s remarks were impromptu and not part of a coordinated effort to soften the ground for a shift by the president. They spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss internal White House deliberations.
As recently as eight years ago, conservatives in several states maneuvered successfully to place questions relating to gay marriage on the election day ballot as a way of boosting turnout for President George W. Bush’s re-election.
Now, nationwide polling suggests increasing acceptance of gay marriage. In a national survey released earlier this month, Gallup reported 50 percent of those polled said it should be legal, and 48 percent were opposed. Democrats favored by a margin of roughly 2-1, while Republicans opposed it by an even bigger margin. Among independents, 57 percent expressed support, and 40 percent were opposed.
Whatever the polls, the political crosscurrents are tricky, and administration officials conceded as much.
Some top aides argued that gay marriage is toxic at the ballot box in competitive states like North Carolina and said the vote there this week shows that opposition to the issue is a rallying point for Republicans.
Shifting his emphasis, even briefly, could open Obama up to Republican criticism that he is taking his eye off the economy, voters’ No. 1 issue.
Yet some prominent gay donors have said publicly they wanted Obama to announce his support for gay marriage. Other Democratic supporters claim Obama’s decision could energize huge swaths of the party, including young people. He also could appeal to independent voters.
By day’s end Wednesday, the Obama campaign had emailed a clip of the interview and a personal statement from the president to its vast list of supporters, drawing attention to his stance.
The decision also creates an area of clear contrast between Obama and his Republican rival as he argues that he’s delivered on the change he promised four years ago.
Obama said he sometimes talks with college Republicans on his visits to campuses, and while they oppose his policies on the economy and foreign policy, “when it comes to same sex equality, or, you know, sexual orientation, that they believe in equality. They are more comfortable with it.”
Maggie Gallagher, co-founder of the National Organization for Marriage and a leading supporter of the constitutional amendment approved in North Carolina on Tuesday, said she welcomed Obama’s announcement at the same time she disagreed with it.
“Politically, we welcome this,” she said. “We think it’s a huge mistake. President Obama is choosing the money over the voters the day after 61 percent of North Carolinians in a key swing state demonstrated they oppose gay marriage.”
House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi instantly sought political gain from the president’s announcement. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee issued an email in her name that asked recipients to “stand with President Obama.” Such requests are often followed by a solicitation for campaign donations.
Obama said first lady Michelle Obama also was involved in his decision and joins him in supporting gay marriage.
“In the end, the values that I care most deeply about and she cares most deeply about is how we treat other people,” he said.
Acknowledging that his support for same-sex marriage may rankle religious conservatives, Obama said he thinks about his faith in part through the prism of the Golden Rule — treating others the way you would want to be treated.
“That’s what we try to impart to our kids and that’s what motivates me as president and I figure the most consistent I can be in being true to those precepts, the better I’ll be as a dad and a husband and hopefully the better I’ll be as president,” Obama said.
Six states — all in the Northeast except Iowa — and the District of Columbia allow same-sex marriages. In addition, two other states have laws that are not yet in effect and may be subject to referendums.

Comments
wyriontair 1 year, 1 month ago
His position "evolved" into support to try and garner votes.
asb 1 year, 1 month ago
There's a fair chance that Obama already had the majority of the LGBT vote. This might actually cost him votes. After all, so many of America's salivating homophobes were fans of Obama before yesterday, surely a few are now seeing him in a new, rainbow colored, light.
spelchek 1 year, 1 month ago
Funny how a president accuses republicans of "social Darwinism" when it's he, who is the one that's "evolving".
gofish 1 year, 1 month ago
I'm happy that the debate is over something other than abortion. However, I think Obama's "coming out of the closet" will cost him more votes than he will retain or gain. It's ironic, and sad, but I think abortion is more palitable to the masses. Perhaps because it is a single event, rather than a lifestyle.
tonto_goldberg 1 year, 1 month ago
I believe the idealogues on both sides will continue to be frustrated that "their" candidate does not take positions that fully comply with all of their desires. In reality, we who wish to vote for someone will have to settle for the candidate that either meets more of their ideals or fails fewer of their personal litmus tests than the other.
spelchek 1 year, 1 month ago
So, in 2008 Mr. Obama was "anti-gay" as you would have it, yet you still voted for him? Kind of blows your republican voting theory right out of the water; doesn't it?
spelchek 1 year, 1 month ago
"But he wasn't anti-gay in 2008." = Wrong
Yes Mr. Chase I was, Bravo! But you see, I'm evolving just like the President.
spelchek 1 year, 1 month ago
You have zero clue of my sexual preferences so............stop speculating.
Sequoia 1 year, 1 month ago
It is an interesting question as to how this will affect voter turnout. A lot of hardcore liberals are lukewarm about Obama for the same reasons the hardcore right is lukewarm about Romney--insufficient ideological purity. Perhaps its a wash in this election.
In the long run, though, this puts Obama on the right side of history (and conservatism), and forces Republicans to either modernize or paint themselves into a corner for yet another lost cause.
True conservatives favor gay rights because, legally, it is simpler and less invasive, and because of the principles of religous freedom and equal protection. The distinction between hetero and homosexual marriage is a religious one that is improper for the government to make in the application of tax and family law.
Sequoia 1 year, 1 month ago
Not to mention social stability. Married households tend to be more financially productive and stable.
JCLifer 1 year, 1 month ago
Yeah, homo marriage might destroy the sanctity of marriage and oncrease to divorce rate, as well as partners who fool around. We got to protect a good thing.
MO4LIFE 1 year, 1 month ago
Grace what country do you live in that "gays have the right to marry just like everyone else" At last count i believe there are only like 6 states that allow gay marriage. Just more of the same old Grace-believe factrs that you pull out of thin air. Gays are not any more or less than straight people either.
fo3angels 1 year, 1 month ago
I live in the USA, where the constitution is the supreme law of the land (Article 6, clause 2), where all states are required to give full faith and credit to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of the other states (article 4, section 1), where liberty is not to be infringed without due process of law - due process requiring that all are treated equally (5th amendment), where all persons are to be afforded equal protection under the law - note that it is all persons, not all citizens, residents, or any qualification of what makes a person eligible for the equal protection (14th amendment), where separate but equal is inherently unequal (Brown v. the Kansas City Board of Education), where marriage is a fundamental right not to be infringed for arbitrary reasons such as (notably not limited to) race (Loving v. Virginia), and where freedom of religion means that you are entitled to your religious beliefs, but you are not entitled to impose your religious beliefs on anyone else. For the record, in 1967 when the SCOTUS decided Loving v. Virginia, 70% of the population was against inter-skin-color marriage, and I believe it was 17 states that had laws against it. Being popular does not make you right in the eyes of the Constitution.
Gabrielle 1 year, 1 month ago
sounds like a really cool place to live!
JCLifer 1 year, 1 month ago
Who cares? Let'em marry. They arent hurting anyone. If you are right, God will take care if them in the end.
Sequoia 1 year, 1 month ago
True conservatives, and this president, know that the American idea works best when we invite all our citizens to buy into it.
Phony conservatives spend a lot of time talking about who doesn't belong.
MO4LIFE 1 year, 1 month ago
Which is why they don't talk about minorities and gays because they feel that they don't belong just like u!
MO4LIFE 1 year, 1 month ago
Right I am only going off of reading your comments. Like when thereis a crime your comments usually tell police to go to Lincoln and get the criminals! or Time to get the thugs out of here..etc. But when it is a white person crime you have nothing negative to say Grace the proof is in the pudding!
PatsyDecline 1 year, 1 month ago
As the Wall Street Banksters systemically ripping off pension funds and manipulating markets, selling toxic debt to widowers....
As our corporate owned governments are selling out our childrens future into a lifetime of debt slavery.....
It is issues like gay marriage which will "destroy America".
Heh. These shiny brown boots are made for walking!
MO4LIFE 1 year, 1 month ago
Then get to stepping! Go live in Canada! OOPS they allow same sex marriage along with a lot of modern nations!
PatsyDecline 1 year, 1 month ago
I'm sorry. I think you missed my point.
Have a nice day.
JMO 1 year, 1 month ago
I think you needed a question mark Patsy. Sarcasm doesn't translate well to print.
asb 1 year, 1 month ago
A collection of goofy phrases tossed by a frightened extremist; "corruption of the mind and soul . . . [to any who disagree with me]"; "the wrong side of morality", "America . . . moraly and fiscally bankrupt", "[Obama] could very well lose this election by the biggest landslide in American history", "gays already have the right to marry just like everyone else" and my favorite, " . . . a way in which America's enemies are attempting to destroy America." Grace, America's only real enemies are fear and hate crazed fundamentalist religious extremists like yourself who enjoy enough economically motivated state support to occaisionally be more effective than America's own fundamentalist religious extremists.
tonto_goldberg 1 year, 1 month ago
True conservatives understand the importance of minding their own business. That would be people like Barry Goldwater, not like the current crop of manipulative corporatists. A minimal government can not be used to support maximum interventioin in people's private lives. It takes selective memory and twisted definitions for bluenosed, meddlesome hypocrites to call themselves conservative.
MO4LIFE 1 year, 1 month ago
LMFAO I BET IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!
Sequoia 1 year, 1 month ago
Connor Friedersdorf is a conservative over at the Atlantic does a great job writing about how the conservative movement fails to uphold conservative values, on this and other issues.
theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/05/this-week-obama-helped-traditional-marriage-and-north-carolina-hurt-it/256974/
asb 1 year, 1 month ago
I'm not sure pointing out the tea party's trashing of the rich tradition of American conservativism and soiling of conservative intellectualism with mindless whining about the evil government and the dangers of debt, non-whites, and education is trash. What the tea party has done to our politics, with the direct aid of FOX/Limbaugh and other propagandists for cash and greed, now that's trash. But, there you go . . . think or just hate, well that's easy eh?
spelchek 1 year, 1 month ago
I'm not sure pointing out the progressive's trashing of the rich tradition of American liberalism and soiling of liberal intellectualism with mindless whining about not enough government and the ignorance of debt, creating diversity with diversity, and destroying education is trash. What progressives has done to our politics, with the direct aid of CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, HNN, PBS, NPR, Bill Mauer, Hollywood, etc. and other propagandists for cash and greed, now that's trash. But, there you go . . . think or just hate, well that's easy eh?
JMO 1 year, 1 month ago
It is ridiculous to say "everyone has the right to marry someone of the opposite sex". So, they have the right to a sham, loveless marriage to someone they are not attracted to? Sure, that's what marriage is all about.
Everyone should have the right to marry the person they love; the person they want to spend their lives with, share their worldly goods, livelihood and future with. That's the right they should have. Give me one good reason why should they not be able to choose that person just because they happen to be of the same sex?
JMO 1 year, 1 month ago
Two people who love each other being able to marry each other is not ideal. Got it.
JMO 1 year, 1 month ago
Morally objectionable. Right. That's always the same old song. That's not a good reason. Gay people are as moral as anyone else. They can be honest, hard-working, loving, kind and charitable as anyone else. That some people have a problem with their bedroom habits is not a good reason. Let's refuse heterosexuals who are a bit kinky the right to marry. There are certainly weirder bedroom habits. Biologically is also not a good reason. They are the VAST minority. There's more than enough heterosexual people to keep this planet overpopulated and gays can reproduce just fine...all they need is a willing donor or surrogate. They can adopt unwanted children and give them loving homes. Should we not allow sterile heterosexuals to marry as well? That would be just as biologically objectionable.
spelchek 1 year, 1 month ago
"gays can reproduce just fine...all they need is a willing donor or surrogate." = Contradiction
Throwing the ....BUT.... in your comment doesn't change the natural order of things. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
JMO 1 year, 1 month ago
And infertile couples also need either a donor or some sort of medical intervention or surrogate. A fertile gay man can reproduce, he just needs a woman willing to be surrogate. A fertile lesbian can reproduce, she just need a sperm donor. They can't reproduce with each other, but neither can a woman married to a man who's infertile or a man married to a woman who's infertile or has had a hysterectomy. My point is, if the ability to continue the species is necessary for a marriage to be allowed, it isn't specific to gays.
Besides, I get the impression there's several of you who'd like them out of the gene pool.
spelchek 1 year, 1 month ago
That's why the word "natural" is so important in my point. Men weren't born to breastfeed. Put two men out in the middle of nowhere with an infant and that baby will die. Don't confuse fact with emotion.
JMO 1 year, 1 month ago
Fact: If you had put me in the middle of nowhere with my infant son, he would have died. For some reason, although I was and am a healthy, fully heterosexual and all-natural woman, I was unable to breastfeed. My OB told me it was uncommon, but certainly not unheard of. So, given that I couldn't sustain him "naturally", apparently I should never have married? Seriously, since when is reproduction the one and only reason for people to marry?
spelchek 1 year, 1 month ago
You are equipped to nurture a child; men are not. That is my point. I never suggested reproduction = marriage, go back and read my comments. I am simply stating we are equipped the way we are to procreate. To me homosexuals are mother natures way of crowd control. Two men and two women cannot make a baby, end of argument. They have to cheat in order to obtain a baby. Quite frankly it's a little hypocritical to desire something your lifestyle can't permit. If a man loves a man then guess what, no child comes from this arrangement, same with lesbians. I'm not against them "having" children; just pointing out the arrangement homosexuals have to obtain children isn't supposed to happen in the natural order of things.
eileen10 1 year, 1 month ago
there was gayness in biblical times and who knows what the neandrethals were up to. JCLifer is right.their not hurting anyone.In the end God will sort things out.Personally speaking if two people find happiness together thats a good thing because there are a lot of lonely people in this world.the gays arent going to out number the straight people which is probably what some may think.and they arent going to destroy what our country stands for.their people who just happen to be gay.
Sequoia 1 year, 1 month ago
If God doesn't like gay people, why did he make them? The idea that God "likes" or "dislikes" certain things the way we do is absolutely ridiculous. God sees all rise and fall. He doesn't get worried.
asb 1 year, 1 month ago
And Grace, if there is a God, and it pays attention to humans, it has absolutely no problem with us sanctifying homosexual marriage. Your fears on this are based on a specific view of God and a dogma distilled by a millenia old cultural cellar that couldn't possibly reflect the potential conscious creator of the universe. Your faith is yours, but should not be the basis for denying what the greatest human rights statement of all time guarantees; life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Not life as you'd have it, no liberty other than that defined by you, and persecution for the pursuit of happiness. Your concern for others' choice of life partners is unhealthy and antisocial.
asb 1 year, 1 month ago
You're inventing my intent again. I said none of those exclusionary ideas. You do indeed have a right to your faith, as I said. Yes, people of faith have those same political rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, as I said. My post doesn't even hint at attitudes of exclusion, or that any means to such would be acceptable. You, on the other hand, would use your bible as a book of law and your dogma as a cultural litmus test, like the Taliban. You are free to do this, in your church and in your head. You are, however, denied the right to shove your book and your dogma up my chute on moral grounds, by the very constitution you think is written on tablets. You are wrong, afraid, and a hinderance to true conservatism.
sickandtired 1 year, 1 month ago
Actually asb if you look at the constitution the only rites we have are life, liberty and the persuit of happiness.
Life- you are free to live your life as you want and do with it as you want as long as you do not hurt somebody else.
Liberty-You are at liberty to vocalize your opinion, practice your religion without risk of attack.
Persuit of Happiness- you can obtain a job, work hard, earn your money and do with it as you want.
Marriage is a man made law and has nothing to do with the constitution. If the president wants to change the law there are ways to go about that.Until then he needs to defend the laws on the books and keep his personnel opinions out of his job.
JCLifer 1 year, 1 month ago
That persuit of happiness is bs because i have to pay nearly half my wages to a corrupt evil government in taxes
tonto_goldberg 1 year, 1 month ago
You do realize it's a system, right? You don't make money just because you have talent and work hard. How much money would Bill Gates or Tom Watson or Tom Edison or Edwin Land have made without patent and copyright protection? How well would you do in a system where an honest day's work is worth a couple dollars, tops?
Part of your taxes pays the cost of keeping the system going so you can pursue happiness and enjoy decent pay for what you do. You can't separate those things; you can't have a decent living without civil society. You can still pursue happiness, but you may need to make a little more money to buy that big house and fancy car.
MO4LIFE 1 year, 1 month ago
Then Grace should have no problem with the healthcare bill since the writers of the constitution mandated healthcare for the merchant marines in the 1790s which was and individual mandate. Because who new the intent of the forefathers of our country then themselves!! LOOK IT UP!!!!! As well as the individual mandate in the MILITIA ACT OF 1789.
Sequoia 1 year, 1 month ago
Actually, according to the Book of Genesis, God didn't make us with free will. He made us to live without knowledge in the Garden. There were no theives and murderers in the Garden. It was Man and Woman, tempted by the Serpant, who decided to eat from the Tree of Knowledge, to worry over good and evil. God didn't make us this way. We fell.
John 1 year, 1 month ago
Actually, Sequoia, you're picking and choosing AGAIN. Yes, there was a thief and a murderer in the Garden. You really need to study your Christian doctrine before writing some of this stuff.
Most of you pick and choose what you want to justify your position. I think that is okay (unlearned but okay) EXCEPT when it comes to writing about the Holy Bible and Biblical concepts, meaning, and content.
John 1 year, 1 month ago
Actually, Sequoia, wrong again. You surely do pick and choose. Nowhere in Genesis does it say "He [God] made us to live without knowledge in the Garden [sic}." The tree was the "tree of knowledge of good and evil," NOT "the Tree of Knowledge."
Please, feel free to spin it any way you want but, please, be honest when you quote it.
spelchek 1 year, 1 month ago
Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.
Sequoia 1 year, 1 month ago
Another issue on which there is a clear choice: not just homosexuality, but basic compassion versus pleasure in tormenting the weak and vulnerable.
washingtonpost.com/politics/mitt-romneys-prep-school-classmates-recall-pranks-but-also-troubling-incidents/2012/05/10/gIQA3WOKFU_story.html
JMO 1 year, 1 month ago
Do you really think it's right to judge a man based upon a single bad act done in high school? I mean, I'm unlikely to vote for the man, but really. #1 It was 1965, most people were less than tolerant then. #2 He'd have been what, 16? 17?, hardly mature. #3 Kids are cruel and boys, particularly, have a tendancy to bully kids weaker than themselves. Sad but true. And #4 I'm certainly not the same person I was in high school. I'm older, wiser, more tolerant and certainly less than proud of some instances from those days. Let's judge people on their more recent actions, rather than something they did nearly 50 years ago.
Sequoia 1 year, 1 month ago
If you think character matters in a politician, as I do, you can decide for yourself the best source of evidence on character. I was no better in high school, but I'm not asking to be president. I don't want "most people" to be president.
I think Romney is a man of exceptionally high ability and organizational skills. But I don't think he's very good at putting himself in the shoes of another, and I just don't think I'd like to spend very much time around him.
You can get the death penalty in this country for something you do when you're 16 or 17. A man wants to be my president, and I'll judge him harshly and based on all the evidence I have, thank you very much.
Sequoia 1 year, 1 month ago
Only since 2005. Since 1976 this country has executed 22 people for crimes they commited while juveniles.
You're right I'm not objective. I have a point of view. Just like you.
John 1 year, 1 month ago
This country executes ONLY adults. One tried as a JUVENILE is NOT an adult and is therefore not executed for a juvenile crime. If someone is executed it is because they were tried as an adult NOT a juvenile.
Your statements, therefore, are misleading. Nobody in this country is executed for a juvenile crime. (I am NOT in favor of capital punishment, but please quit mistating facts or stating them in such a way as to ovfuscate the truth).
JMO 1 year, 1 month ago
And are you a better man today than you were in high school?
Actually, was guessing on 16 or 17. He was more likely 17 or 18...darn well preserved for 65 I must say. And I still think its asinine to judge a 65 year old man for something he did at 17 or 18, up to and including crimes if you want to get to that. My opinion. This is an incident he may be deeply ashamed of, you dont know. Judge the MAN's character - not the boys. Now you point me to a shred of evidence that says he retains that mean streak today and I'll consider that carefully and judge just as harshly.
Having said that, it's all I care to say on the subject. That's not the subject I came on here to discuss.
Sequoia 1 year, 1 month ago
Well, he's still perfectly willing to go along with the GOP agenda of targeting small, relatively powerless minorities in order to improve his political standing. Not much different than a bully who picks on smaller, younger, weaker kids because they're not "normal."
That is to say, maybe he has matured. But he's perfectly willing to pander to those who haven't.
spelchek 1 year, 1 month ago
Obama does it with his "previous administration" comments all the time. Many on here have jumped on the band wagon as well. Can't have it both ways.
JMO 1 year, 1 month ago
When Obama speaks of the "previous administration" he's not talking about what W did in high school, he's talking about what he did in office. A world of difference.
asb 1 year, 1 month ago
The previous administration did enough damage to our economy, the middle east, and our respect around the world to merit another decade of regular credit where due. Consequences.
asb 1 year, 1 month ago
the smell of the fearfull decay of America in your head must be overpowering, glad I'm not there.
tonto_goldberg 1 year, 1 month ago
A good round of antibiotics would help your sinuses.
soxfan 1 year, 1 month ago
" on the fence ' he was for gay marriage 5 years ago don l chicago
soxfan 1 year, 1 month ago
" on the fence" he was for gay marriage 5 years ago don l
wow 1 year, 1 month ago
What ever you call ..make sure Mr. President or President of the United States is include...ya better getm use to it, cause the Obama's are gonna be at 16 Penn Ave for another 4 year. Like it or not...that's the way it is.
wow 1 year, 1 month ago
Meant to say.....What ever you call him ..make sure Mr. President or President of the United States is include...ya better get use to it, cause the Obama's are gonna be at 16 Penn Ave for another 4 years. Like it or not...that's the way it is.
JCLifer 1 year, 1 month ago
I'm afraid you are probably right. By the time all the votes from the dead people and the illegal invaders are counted...
spelchek 1 year, 1 month ago
BOOM!!!
tonto_goldberg 1 year, 1 month ago
According to several analyses by people who know such things, (citations are available if you want) Rasmusses polling is mostly done on behalf of Fox News and consistently reports a GOP bias of 5.8 points. Your poll in isolation would indicate that the race is about even with a slight advantage to Romney on a real-world basis. What's the trend, though? Is this the first one since Romney became the de facto GOp candidate?
tonto_goldberg 1 year, 1 month ago
In a country of over three hundred million, a few million people who live in an imaginary perfect fantasy world that never really existed can't even get one of their own nominated for the presidency.
spelchek 1 year, 1 month ago
"Meant to say.....What ever you call him ..make sure Mr. President or President of the United States is include...ya better get use to it, cause the Obama's are gonna be at 16 Penn Ave for another 4 years. Like it or not...that's the way it is." -- Thanks for the good laugh. I needed that.
whatif 1 year, 1 month ago
I just heard a news report this morning that hetreo's have already succeeded in accomplishing that so there is no fear that homo's can do further damage....LOL
whatif 1 year, 1 month ago
this was suppose to be under Sequoia's: "Not to mention social stability. Married households tend to be more financially productive and stable." and JCLifer's: "Yeah, homo marriage might destroy the sanctity of marriage and oncrease to divorce rate, as well as partners who fool around. We got to protect a good thing."
of 4 days 2 hours ago
sickandtired 1 year, 1 month ago
I find it interesting that through all of the bickering back and forth nobody seems to care that What Obama said was his personnel opinion. I thought personnel opinion was not suppose to be involved in politics. Everybody on the left screams that opinion should not get involved in politics when it comes to religion and abortion. Everybody on the right screams about personnel opinion when it comes to welfare states. Here is a president that was voted into office to watch out for all of America. Yes there are Repubs and Dem. parties but once in office the president is expected to protect and work for all members of the country. He takes an oath to defend all current laws on the books. When he announced that he supported gay marriage he introduced his personnel opinion into politics and attempted to make them law. He has already gone against his oath as president when he refused to defend the marraige act of 1996. It is not his job to decide what is constitutional or not. Now weather you are for or against marriage I don't care. But I am sure everybody expects the president to do his job as the job description details. I am still waiting for him to do that.
director 1 year, 1 month ago
I think GOD wants ALL of you to kiss and make up.
spelchek 1 year, 1 month ago
Obama voices support for gay marriage -- Just not in writing.
Please review our Policies and Procedures before registering or commenting
Or login with:
OpenID