JCPD responds to stabbing and shots fired call

Tuesday, July 17, 2012

At about 2 a.m. Tuesday morning, Jefferson City police responded to the 1400 block of Elizabeth for a call of a disturbance and shots fired.

When officers arrived on scene, they could find no one outside in the area.

Further information developed that led officers to the 1000 block of Elizabeth, where four pistol shell casings were located in the street.

Officers were able to speak to persons in that area, but none of whom were willing to give any information or cooperate with police.

Officers searched the area and eventually found a trail of blood leading to 1417 Elizabeth Street.

Within an apartment there, they located the victim of an apparent stabbing, a 27 year old male Jefferson City resident.

The victim was less than cooperative and gave a variety of stories as to what occurred and how he was allegedly stabbed.

The victim did have two stab wounds and was transported to a local hospital for treatment, then released.

Throughout interviews with the victim, police were unable to gain any information as to the suspect, reason, or location where the stabbing took place, and the victim refused to cooperate with information regarding any shots fired.

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TickledPink 10 months, 1 week ago

Why aren't these people charged with obstruction when they refuse to cooperate? Let him sit in jail until his memory clears up.

JCLifer 10 months, 1 week ago

Also, boot them out of the public housing. It is inappropriate to use our tax dollars to pay for people involved in crime and also for people obstructing justice.

Boot these thugs out and run them out of town! Let them know clearly how we do not welcome people like this to live in our town.

Sequoia 10 months, 1 week ago

I agree it is unhelpful and not too smart, but people do have the right to remain silent.

spelchek 10 months, 1 week ago

Apparently you can bring a knife to a gun fight.

tonto_goldberg 10 months, 1 week ago

Happens all the time, but it's not a very good strategy for long-term survival.

smarterthanu 10 months, 1 week ago

The reason these people are not just thrown in jail is called the bill of rights. The fifth ammendment guarantees that no individual may be made to be a witness against onesself. Therefore it is the right of the individual to withhold any and all information that the individual chooses. There is no law that you must speak to the police and deciding not to incriminate ones self is not obstruction of justice. This is why Civics needs to be taught in schools. In America we don't just throw people in jail because they refuse to talk to the police. In fact it is your god given right to not talk to the police. Having said that, I believe that they should bulldoze the projects, stop shipping our jobs overseas and let the people who live on welfare have the manufacturing jobs that we gave away to the mexicans and the chinese.

TickledPink 10 months, 1 week ago

I don't think he stabbed himself so naming who it was wouldn't be incriminating himself. And the people in their apartments were presumably not directly involved in the altercation so they would also not be incriminating themselves. Yes, we have the right to remain silent.

"If the person lied to protect a suspect (such as by providing a false alibi, even if the suspect is in fact innocent) or to hide from investigation their own activities (such as to hide his involvement in another crime), this may leave them liable to prosecution. Obstruction charges can also be laid if a person alters or destroys physical evidence, even if he was under no compulsion at any time to produce such evidence. Often, no actual investigation or substantiated suspicion of a specific incident need exist to support a charge of obstruction of justice."

TickledPink 10 months, 1 week ago

And absolutely, kick their butts out of housing. I'd bet most of these "men" aren't the "baby daddy" anyway so they shouldn't be living there to begin with.

Sequoia 10 months, 1 week ago

Yuck. Folks, it is downright disrespectful to be this ignorant about our civil rights and rule of law. If you're this uneducated about basic American principles, you ought to be more embarassed about posting it on the internet.

I have to go take a shower now.

Sequoia 10 months, 1 week ago

I'm a jerk because I care.

Come on, Grace. You know something about the law and the constitution. (We may not ever agree, but I'll admit you know your stuff. You're not a poser like Lifer.)

You're not a little taken aback by Americans supporting the idea that police could make people talk by throwing them in jail?

Knock knock. "Excuse me, ma'am. There was a hit-and-run accident in front of your house last night. Can you tell me what happened?"

"Sorry, officer. I wan't home last night. I didn't see anything. I don't know what happened."

"Come with me, ma'am. A strip search and a week in jail will refresh your memory. If you don't want to lose your job, you'll start telling me what I want to hear."

I mean... dang.

John 10 months ago

The possibly cannot name the other because they would both be able to incriminate the other one involved (thereby incriminating themselves).

jeffcitygirl 10 months, 1 week ago

Have any of you considered fear of retaliation for ratting out the guilty party as a reason to be uncooperative? He got stabbed, it's between him and this other person, maybe he just wants to deal with it on his own rather than take the chance of retaliation in the form of more harm from the person who did it, or that person's associates? Being a "narc" or "rat" in that culture can get you killed you know..

connor 10 months, 1 week ago

So it is OK to assume that the victim is living in a culture where being a rat or narc is punishable by death but to assume he is not employed makes someone racist?

jcjoe2020 10 months, 1 week ago

You've been watching too much gangland. Downtown JC isn't downtown chicago, new york city, st louis, etc.....

LuckNLove 10 months, 1 week ago

I'm not saying that JC is anything near Chicago, New York, STL but if you believe that retaliation doesn’t happen here you are mistaken. Just because someone doesn’t live in a large city doesn’t mean that can’t get mad or retaliate on someone who ‘ratted’ them out.

nobodyknows 10 months ago

It might not be chicago or st.louis but the ppl involved where from there and where rased there so thats how they r...

jcjoe2020 10 months, 1 week ago

So I guess to answer the question in your first sentence, no, in this scenario I don't think he's being quiet for fear of retaliation.

pro_CP 10 months, 1 week ago

The only thing these people did by keeping silent is guarantee that an incident like this happens to someone else. Let's just hope some innocent bystander, such as a child, doesn't get hurt or killed. You should be ashamed of being cowards.

wcywing 10 months, 1 week ago

"...any lawyer worth his salt will tell the suspect in no uncertain terms to make no statement to police under any circumstances." Supreme Court Justice Robert H. Jackson

5th Amendment is very important. what if the Fed comes knocking on your door. what if a certain President uses the patriot act on you? be careful what you wish for.

nobodyknows 10 months ago

None of u guys have any clue.. I was scared out of my mind i have lived in 1417 elizabeth for almost a year and have had no problems but then i met the wrong person and with in days hes bleeding all over my house and tellin me not to answer the door to the cops or he will hurt me... I had no clue what to do and nether would u... There r alot of good people in that area its just a few who make it unsafe for the rest of us...and they talk about how many times the cops have been called to elizabeth st. But what the dont say is that its always for the same people.. And it wouldnt hurt to put camaras in the area so next time somthing like this happends they will know the whole story.. No smart person is going to tell on somone that puts them and there loved ones in danger... U never know what one person is able to do..

JCLifer 10 months ago

See? more evidence we need to run out the riff-raff thugs that cause all the problems over there.

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