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Today's Poll!Proposed noise ordinance shifts to zoning panel
Thursday, August 23, 2012
As a proposed noise ordinance moves through the city, at least one resident is looking for answers on how the noise levels are measured.
At the Jefferson City Council Committee on Administration meeting Wednesday, staff again discussed a proposed new noise ordinance, which would establish a measurable way of determining when a resident or business is in violation of the noise ordinance.
Public Works Director Roger Schwartze took a sound level meter and measured various city noises to help establish the limits in each zoning classification.
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rodinman 9 months ago
There was an excellent in-depth analysis of conference centers presented by a private citizen. Look for an article in the next day or two as the reporter was given a copy of his analysis.
mlapin 9 months ago
I cannot understand how anyone including Public Works Director Roger Schwartze could say they took a sound reading of about 79 from Prison Brews the night of any outdoor concert. A quick google search shows me that that is just about the loudness of a washing machine. You can hear the music as it bends and distorts past Chestnut--more than a block away. Try to hear a washing machine from that distance. I too have called the police about the loud music and it is very loud. So loud at times you cannot even hear your own TV without turning up the sound. One time it actually made the windows shake as I visited a friend on Ash Street--and the friend did not live across the street from the patio.
What is it with this need to play loud music in a residential area and totally disregard the people who live on the block?
3bunnies 9 months ago
Sounds like the Cole County Fair Grounds, will have to move out of City Limits once again !
melbrooks 9 months ago
Business owners in that area have invested substantial dollars in buildings which were in very rough condition. That investment was sorely needed. I would think that the best course of action would be to modify the ordinance to help those businesses thrive. In my opinion, they've done much to clean up the area and should be applauded and rewarded for doing so.
mlapin 9 months ago
It may sound strange to you, but the Ash Street community has been clean and quiet for the last decade. Yes, it had problems in the late 90's and perhaps the beginning of this century, but it was a community. We went to each other's homes for parties, spent many fine hours outside on our porches, laughed at the perceived reputation, and even helped each other with problems. Now the community is gone--segregation is back in place--and now it has drunks, loud noise, more drunks and incredible congestion. The handicapped lady with a ramp in front of her house is many times brought to tears because she cannot find a place to park. Furthermore, in a town that claims to be Christian, I cannot understand why money is the God of so many. Yes, they brought money to the area--three businesses in all--but did they ever ask what we needed, did they ever try to feel out our needs as residents in the area where they built their businesses. No. Lastly, how would it be if suddenly drunks, congestion and very loud music came to your neighborhood? I know you would not like it and I know you would ask the city to help you to stop these activities. I, for one, have never seen so many beer bellies and drunks in my life--and then they get into their cars and drive home oftentimes with small children in tow. Model citizens. By the way, I no longer live on the 300 block of Ash, but very close to it.
melbrooks 9 months ago
The area was in decline for quite some time, and much of it was due to a lack of investment in the properties located there.
The genesis of the renewal of the area came when the Kaullen Mercantile building was restored in 1998, but the investments made in the old C & H Tavern, Landwehr Dairy, and the C.A. Dirckx buildings are substantial improvements.
Understanding these investments are the catalyst for revitalizing the area is not making a god of money. It's just recognizing the facts.
mlapin 9 months ago
Good and solid points. Thank you, Mel.
JCLifer 9 months ago
I hate that the redevelopment just pushed the mess out a little farther instead of removing it. Portions of Moreau, Bald Hill, and the once nice little neighborhood south and east of the Break time station are declining rapidly. Instead of transformation and improvement,the work around Cherry street just pushed the mess into once very nice and quiet neighborhoods. The transformation didn't help any of the people who lived there. It just helped the investors at the ex pence of everyone else.
mlapin 9 months ago
For the last ten years Ash has been very quiet--what drug dealers and what criminals? A handicapped elderly lady? A retired state worker? A single mother with small chiuldren? Now it has drug dewalers again--knowing full well the police do not go dsown the block during its busiest hours. And drunks--what I can say about the drunks.
eileen10 9 months ago
I know there are lots of bad guys moving into Jeff but when you said JCPD is doing a lot to rid the east side of them where do the bad guys go? Just wondering.
JCLifer 9 months ago
That's concern too. Does little good to run the out of one area just to have them settle in another neighborhood. The run down neighborhoods have dropping home values. I agree that these vermin have spread all over town. The east side has plenty of em, but there are plenty on the west side too. Don't even get started on Callaway County. The hills a cross the river are full of em.
eileen10 9 months ago
I wonder if some kind of thug patrol would work Ya I watch to much tv but citizens with bats or sling shots or..nope. Their probably armed with guns. Any ideas from anyone? Seems like the police have their hands full and could use some help.
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