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Today's Poll!Catholic Charities office to be dedicated today
Wednesday, August 22, 2012
To add “hands and feet” to their ministry of prayer and sacrifice, the Carmelite Sisters invited the Catholic Charities of Central and Northern Missouri to relocate administrative offices to their monastery.
The staff of three moved from the Diocese of Jefferson City chancery to 2201 W. Main St. in June.
At 5:30 p.m. today, a blessing and dedication ceremony will be held in the Carmelite sanctuary, so the cloistered sisters may participate. An open house will follow in the Charities’ offices to the west, closest to the Cathedral of St. Joseph parking lot.
About one year ago, the diocese created the Charities organization, incorporating several of its existing ministries.
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Sequoia 9 months ago
The Carmelite nuns and the Catholic Charities are both awesome and a great match. The Carmelite life is about as revolutionary and counter-cultural as you can get these days, and the Charities actually get out there and bring Jesus to where the people are. They don't use power to enforce rules... they just bring Christ to those people. That's hardcore in a way that just cannot be comprehended the modern day Pharisees who use the name of Jesus to get applause or votes for themselves, and who weild the power of the state against marginalized individuals in the name of the Christ.
Here's the language from the Catholic Charities:
Our vision is to provide compassionate care through the healing ministry of Jesus and create hope for a better life for our neighbors who are challenged by poverty of mind, body, emotions and spirit. We accomplish this effort not solely on our own, but in partnership with other agencies and by engaging the local community in our efforts.
Our Core Values •We believe in the message of Jesus that conveys love and hope. •We affirm the sacredness and dignity of all human life. •We work in partnership with others who share in our mission. •We pursue excellence and uphold integrity in all we do. •We offer service to those in need regardless of background, belief or circumstance.
Notice that, in this view, they don't set a forked-tongue false choice between government social spending and private charity. They work "in partnership with other agencies and by engaging the local community in our efforts." Public and private help each other. The virtue of private individual charity is no excuse to slash a social safety net just so a few people can get a nice tax cut.
Note that the sacredness and dignity of "all" human life includes not only a sacred fetus but also a sacred mother carrying the fetus. Absolute personhood for the fetus necessarily denies the mother the right to control her own body... fetus personhood is a political manipulation of a complex spiritual matter. The presence of the infant inside the mother creates a unique problem that can't be answered with easy answers or legislative fixes. The "pro life" candidate is often anything but. Don't be manipulated. Don't vote for Christ. He's not running for anything. He doesn't need the government to enshrine him. Just try to follow his Way.
Excellence. Integrity. Service to others regardless of background or belief or circumstance. Weird how radical and revolutionary that sounds in the context of the modern institutional politicized Church. It's just as radical as Jesus sounded to the Sanhedrin.
xhepera 9 months ago
Always a profound joy to hear of someone actually doing what Christ commanded instead of going the whited sepulcher route.
GrumpyGus 9 months ago
"...fetus personhood is a political manipulation of a complex spiritual matter. The presence of the infant inside the mother creates a unique problem that can't be answered with easy answers or legislative fixes."
Right, in your mind it can only be answered with death. What an utterly dispicable position you hold. You give an outward appearance of loving the Church, but follow none of Her teachings. You ARE the Pharisees.
asb 8 months, 4 weeks ago
Um, Gus, that's the Charities phrase, not Swquoia's.
GrumpyGus 8 months, 4 weeks ago
Read the post lefty...the tree wrote that as an opinion. A disgusting opinion.
Sequoia 8 months, 4 weeks ago
Yes, that's my opinion. I'm certainly not trying to ascribe that opinion to either the Carmelites or the Catholic charities.
My view, to be clear, is that abortion is generally immoral, but there are situations in which an abortion could be the most compassionate act for all involved. My view is that the government is not in a position to make that moral determination.
Gus, I'm not sure what you mean by my answer is death. Currently, the law does not grant full personhood status to a fetus, and yet mothers still give birth all the time, without the law telling them they have to.
asb 8 months, 4 weeks ago
ou're right Gus, I didn't notice the break from the Charities text back to Sequoia's. I don't find his opinion disgusting, I don't believe that personhood begins at conception but rather at consciousness and personal awareness, hence my feeling that late term abortion is not acceptable except to save the mother's life, but it's still her choice, not yours or the government's.
John 8 months, 4 weeks ago
There is nothing complicated about the fetus. If NASA finds a single cell on Mars it will immediately be declared "life." However, the pro-abortion (call it what it is, pro-murder) groups on Earth declare that a fetus isn't a life until the child is completely out of the womb.
That is why they can say it okay to allow a doctor stick a needle in a babies head once it has crowned and suck out the brain.
Oh yeah, under Obamacare, this is paid for by your tax dollars.
Paroquet 8 months, 4 weeks ago
No one is in favor of an elective late-term abortion. In fact, nobody is pro-abortion, even those who must make that decision for their own reasons. Many people, though, are anti-choice.
The existing Constitution applies to citizens born or naturalized only.
In the interests of advocating uritanical beliefs and virtually eliminating all instances of rape, unplanned pregnancies (which we, the taxpayer, fund for many of, including long-term to life-long care, and the funeral), as well as forication, impure acts, homosexuality among males, and preponderance of orography and lewd subject matter, I propose the following:
All males shall be rendered impotent at birth with function to be restored only upon being legally married to a member of the opposite sex.
???Watch your mouth! The words "p--n" are not allowed here.??? Okay. Next try: ???Please correct the following errors.??? resp: Uh, what?
Reader: Please sub P or N for all *
Sequoia 8 months, 4 weeks ago
No, the issue is that the fetus life exists INSIDE the mother's life. If you say that a fetus is a full person with all rights of personhood, that deprives the mother of the right to control her own body, which includes the fetus. Two lives, two overlapping rights. There is simply no circumstance in nature comprable to that. It's not anything like finding life on Mars. That's why it is a complicated legal and spiritual issue... I think everyone agrees that the fetus is a "life," but we disagree as to whether it should be a "person" in the legal sense, given that it lives inside another person. There is no other situation, other than pregnancy, where that is true.
I'm not sure you're correct about tax dollars being used for abortion under Obamacare. Do you have a reliable cite for that?
Paroquet 8 months, 4 weeks ago
Technically, a foetus can be considered a teratoma, a form of cancer. Or, to be exceptionally crass, a parasite, until it is born. Some never stop being parasites and grow into politicians, later they metamorphose further into lobbyists.
Apologies to all tapeworms, ticks, amoebas, mosquitoes, infectious fungi, and the like, regardless of party affiliation.
Gabrielle 8 months, 4 weeks ago
lol - and I understand point...maybe an apology to fetuses and teratomas too....
Paroquet 8 months, 4 weeks ago
I appreciate your understanding. I tend to wax somewhat facetious in the face of the obtuse. :-)
asb 8 months, 4 weeks ago
But it is quite complicated John. No late term abortions under National Health Care. The term and act of murder can only appliy to a person, not dogs or martian weckets. You should be able to tell the difference between living tissue and a person, although there is that late term cross-over that's hands off everywhere. You poop life and kill it every day, so by your criteria, you're a murderer. You might consider a more complex definition. A fetus is not a baby or a child. You have gametes and somatic cells in your male body that can be triggered to become a human being of either gender, with technology available today, whether your belief system likes it or not. This is where religion and politics need to part commpany. Abortion of non-concious tissue is none of the government's business.
John 8 months, 4 weeks ago
More distractions. . . . you can obfuscate, you can build strawman arguements all you want. It is only an attempt to not consider the truth, you and others support the killing of a human life-form, not fecal matter nor anything like that.
Now, that is my opinion and you are welcome to yours.
Paroquet 8 months, 4 weeks ago
John,
My opinion is the Rule of Law as it has been previously decided. You're trying to change existing and established conventions and definitions to suit your religious agenda. Not all that different from Sharia Law being enacted by the Taliban. Step-off and say it is what it is, man; you want to force your religious values upon everyone else, and especially ladies.
Hey, I've argued with young earthers, hollow earthers, flat earthers, and zealots of every stripe. If it works for you, fine, but my body is not your chattel or temple.
FYI: Aikin's party runs on the platform of using lethal force and executions. Life is life, right? Pick a lane.
asb 8 months, 4 weeks ago
Yes I'm welcome to my opionion, on my say so, not yours. There's no obfuscation, strawmen or distractions in mine.
Paroquet 8 months, 4 weeks ago
Okay, strike that. Insert a P, N, or F wherever you see an italicized letter. Figure it out.
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