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Today's Poll!Police, neighborhood watch groups use Night Out to reinforce message
Jude Meldrem holds 2-year-old Lily as she high-fives Officer Les Martin before the National Night Out Against Crime meeting got underway Tuesday evening. Photo by Kelley McCall.
Wednesday, September 7, 2011
The theme for the National Night Out Against Crime in Jefferson City on Tuesday night was simple.
Get back to the basics.
For the past few months, there have been a number of car break-ins throughout the city. In many cases, police noted that the cars were not locked, making it easy for criminals to get in and take whatever they wanted.
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3blindmice 1 year, 8 months ago
the message is: one night a year we will be out watching the neighborhood. feel free to do whatever you want the other 364.
sorry in a trolling mood :)
3blindmice 1 year, 8 months ago
actually its not the "lefties" that are anti-law enforcement its the "punks/anarchist" that are anti Le and you have to realize many of them grew up after 9/11 and the patriot act. Its just a push back at what they see as overbearing authority. two cups of tea anyone?
now for a real trolling moment you could post this on reddit as "officer assaults child" and you would get front page
muleman 1 year, 8 months ago
Actually, most of them never "grew up" and that is where the problems originate
gofish 1 year, 8 months ago
3Blind you are incorrect in assuming only the "punks/anarchist" are anti-LE. I can guarantee you that there are many average joes that have been victims of the JCPD ticket quota revenue scheme that are sick to death of paying taxes PLUS fines/court fees to subsidize our fair city, it's festival district, convention center, gas guzzling SUV's, etc, ect.
When city LE starts doing something besides traffic enforcement, they might enjoy a better public image. I have heard from too many citizens who's houses and cars were burglarized where no effort was made to lift fingerprints or collect any other evidence. The beat cop writes a report, turns it over to the detectives (whoever they are), and nothing ever happens. If you're lucky enough to be insured, great. If not, too bad for you.
Another thing prevalent in JC. You are welcome to pick anyone you want and beat the tar out of them as long as there are no witnesses. If the police are called they will be happy to tell you that unless there were witnesses, it is your word vs the person who beat you and there is nothing they can do. I have heard it said to someone exactly like that! So, feel free to roam the streets as a vigilantee and carry out your witnessless deeds with no fear of prosecution. Yes, witnessless is my new word...I just copywrited it!
My point is, when it's about revenue, the paper factory churns out reams of paper. If it's about enforcing ALL of the other laws on the books, then the least amount of paperwork possible is the rule of the day.
Note to those who are blind or have their head in the sand: The JCPD has an image problem that one night out won't solve.
John 1 year, 8 months ago
Actually, they are not under any ticket quota at all. They can actually write all the citations they like.
Mr_Grimm 1 year, 8 months ago
LMAO....Fish you are a funny one. I love the "CSI" generation. where the badguy is always cought in 45 mins or less, there is always enough evidence, and DNA/finger prints/ whatever scientific (mostly non exsistent) technologies are in the basement of a hospital clean ever expansive law enforcement building where EVERY officer is also a forensic investigator, inventor, doctor, etc etc etc. You think tickets (which wouldnt bother you if you didnt DO anything to get one) try the fee for testing fingerprints on every car breakin. Considering you have to print EVERY person who may have LEGALLY entered the vechicle in the last few months. not to mention prints are normally left by oils of the skin. good for glass or something like that. but will not work for cloth, most leathers, dirty surfaces, or places where MANY fingerprints may overlap.....like the INSIDE of a car. As far as "witnessless"....if you get assaulted and no one sees it.....than WHO ELSE is left for the case to be built on except YOU vs THEM?
I encourage anyone to ride along with local LE and see the different styles of policing, attitudes, etc. Are they all nice guys with fluffy personalities.....no. but most are not the monsters you make them out to be. Most DONT CARE about a "quota" or if the city gets money from tickets or not...they just want to do their 8 or 12 hour shift and go home.
gofish 1 year, 8 months ago
Thanks for rattling off poor excuses for the problems that have been identified in these forums for years. I have never watched CSI and have no interest. I cited specific examples where crimes are not investigated. Zero effort guarantees zero results.
Apparently, this town has never heard of the term "community policing". I couldn't tell you a single name of any police officer assigned to my area of town. In fact, police cars don't patrol my nieghborhood. Hence the easy targets for vandals and thieves. The main roads are all that gets patrolled and only then for traffic enforcement.
I grew up in St.Louis. I knew the officers in my neighborhood, 2nd district, and they knew me...by name. They took the time to stop and talk to me when I was outside. Not because I was some criminal, but because it was their job to know the community, and they took an active interest. They patrolled the neightborhoods with their windows down so that they were accessible. Most of the cars I see in Jeff City have the windows up and a head buried in a cell phone. A thief can smash a window and never be detected.
Since you didn't get it the first time I reinterate my point: "Note to those who are blind or have their head in the sand: The JCPD has an image problem that one night out won't solve."
JCLifer 1 year, 8 months ago
There is none so blind as he who refuses to see. This town has a huge crime and drug problem, but the police are impotent to try to stop it. They are mostly glorified meter maids who learned to set up speed traps to catch the people driving faster than 40 MPH on the 4-lane Expressway.
Community Policing? What's that? You want them to actually get out of their cars once in a while? You want them to quit talking to their girlfriends (other guys' wives) on the cell phone?
JCLifer 1 year, 8 months ago
"they just want to do their 8 or 12 hour shift and go home."
Put in their time and retire and collect their pension. Not interested in really doing anything to help prevent crime. Just put in their time and minimally react to the calls as they come in.
Mr_Grimm 1 year, 8 months ago
poor excuses? ive actually heard a woman yell at a detective for not taking fingernail scrap ings (wow, it wont let me type scrap*ings in one word???) from under a womans nails for a domestic case. When both parties already admitted to mutual combat. the mother spent an hour going off demanding dna tests. thousands of dollars worth of tests for a misdemeanor crime with confessions. I got your point, it just didnt matter to me.
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