Opening of ‘adult’ store draws protest
Julie Ruengert, left, and Jan Kruse stand on the public right of way Tuesday to protest a new business, Cirilla’s, on Missouri Boulevard. Photo by Kelley McCall.
Wednesday, June 29, 2011
Cirilla’s, which might be Jefferson City’s first “adult” store, opened with little fanfare recently.
But one local woman who overcame sexual addiction is now fighting to get the store closed, or at least to prevent others like it from cropping up in the capital city.
The small shop, located in Wright Plaza beside Burger King, sells lingerie and adult novelty items, as well as sexually-oriented toys and DVDs. However, it's not being classified by the city as an adult business under city ordinance.


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misshoneybee 1 year, 10 months ago
So, does this broad have to avoid sex toys like an alcoholic has to avoid booze?
him 1 year, 10 months ago
Looks to me like they are drawing more attention to the store than there would be otherwise.
newone 1 year, 10 months ago
I agree, I didn't know the store was here but now I am going to have to go check it out!
laci512 1 year, 10 months ago
I have to agree. I had no idea that this store was there until I saw it here.
MichaelJ 1 year, 10 months ago
I think we could just call her "cured" and skip the drama... But any advertising is still advertising lol!
fishbowl72 1 year, 10 months ago
The one with the dark hair is kinda hot.
misshoneybee 1 year, 10 months ago
I have been told that sexual "addiction" is bosh. It's a sexual COMPULSION, right?
JCsleeper 1 year, 10 months ago
Wonder what the po-po's doing there?
Rison 1 year, 10 months ago
Looks like the Jefferson City wing of Westboro Baptist is trying to force it's will on everyone else. This store is not hurting anyone or anything. Get off (are we allowed to say that to a recovering sex addict?) your high horse and leave others alone.
bashful1269 1 year, 10 months ago
Have we seriously regressed back to the 1950's? It's hard to believe that Jefferson City is so backwards!
whocouldknew 1 year, 10 months ago
I say let's keep the money local!
JCLifer 1 year, 10 months ago
This town is so full of backward prudes.
If you don't like the sex shop, then don't go there.
Sex never hurt anyone. Maybe if these ladies had more, they would be happier.
fishbowl72 1 year, 10 months ago
People need to realize that this business created a handful of jobs. I don't really care if they sell lace nighties or plumbing supplies. Jobs are a good thing. If you want to do something good for the community, go protest in front of a meth lab. Drugs do far more damage than any leather bustier ever did. Go protest in front of a car stereo shop. Kids aren't allowed in the adult business, so why should they be subjected to rap music full of sexual references, derogatory treatment of women and violence just because some thug can spend thousands of dollars to pollute the air with over 100 decibels of that garbage. I may go out and protest the protestors.
local4 1 year, 10 months ago
I totally agree with you. If someone does not like the store they should just not go in there. There is nothing wrong with this place, it's not like they have samples of their items hanging in a window along the blvd. or where kids could see them. They dont have a bad name so most kids would not even know what it is and it is tucked away in the shopping center and not drawing attention, I did not even know it was there until a friend told me about it. It is more jobs created which is a really good thing right now in Jefferson City. I think it is a good thing Jefferson City now has one of these stores (that is not in a nice neighborhood) so we can keep the money local and not have to drive to Columbia just to visit a store like this. I hope they do well, I think I will have to make a visit there to check it out also!
BigRedOne 1 year, 10 months ago
People really do forget their history lessons. This is the sort of censorship that Hitler did in Germany in the 1930’s.
bluesfan13 1 year, 10 months ago
I'm confused by the message "Holiness is Hot". Is she trying to say that Church is the place for these items?
JMO 1 year, 10 months ago
Any advertisement is good advertisement. I had heard the commercials on the radio for this place, but didn't know where it was, or even that it was in JC, until this article. I'm going to have to check it out - no more Old-un in Columbia for me! lol Seriously, what is wrong with people? If you don't like the nature of a business, don't go in. Perhaps all the AA members should protest outside of bars? I'm a (recovering? or former?) smoker - but I'm not going to picket outside We Be Smokin. The only problem I have with them is their poor grammer. This is just another example of people trying to force their version of morality down other peoples throats.
misshoneybee 1 year, 10 months ago
Trust and believe me, JMO, this place can't hold a candle to the Olde Un. But it will do in a pinch.
readmore 1 year, 10 months ago
scuse me. i agree 100%. Grammar is spelled grammar, though. :+) AA members protesting outside of bars would be hilarious!!!!!
JMO 1 year, 10 months ago
Nothing more embarrassing than a typo when you are making fun of someone elses grammar. This is what happens to people who rely too much on spell check.
gofish 1 year, 10 months ago
Removing the booze does not cure the alcoholic, no more than making pot illegal has deterred pot smokers. Just because "one local woman" is a self proclaimed addict who was morally weak and let sex take over her life doesn't mean what she is doing is right for the rest of us. I'm most fearful that by standing outside of her addiction store she may fall by the wayside again. Maybe that's what the policeman is protecting her from. She needs to change her playground and get a life before the makeup melts off her face. Sorry ladies, but unless you have the means to overturn the 1st amendment, stop harrassing the rest of us. BTW, is a utility easement next to a state highway (Bus 50) really considered a public right of way? If it is, then the JCPD needs to stop harrassing the teens who AREN'T out getting drunk and doing drugs who sit/stand along those same easements during the summer, because that my friends, is age discrimination, which violates Federal law.
gofish 1 year, 10 months ago
Thanks for the directions to Cirillas ladies. I'll see you soon, so I can get the free calendar they are giving away.
tonto 1 year, 10 months ago
Dancing, and drinking, and card playing, gambling, and fistfights...and...pickup trucks...and your mother getting out of prison. It's a country western song.
gofish 1 year, 10 months ago
You forgot the train.
tonto 1 year, 10 months ago
What was I thinking? Momma got run over by that ###### old train!
readmore 1 year, 10 months ago
and the dog, and the cheatin hussy
joytotheworld 1 year, 10 months ago
Yes, she is. Man, what a time after the bars closed ! She's still kinda hot, just has a bad attitude now.
JMO 1 year, 10 months ago
I wouldn't say "everyone" since all of us posting seem to think it's just fine.
JMO 1 year, 10 months ago
Something got deleted and now my post makes no sense - or else it was supposed to be on the post below this one. :(
nitrohype 1 year, 10 months ago
This is exactly why JC is dying. The backwards thinking of everyone around here is why JC doesn't move forward!
muleman 1 year, 10 months ago
What a way to get free advertizing ! Would you ladies like to protest my business ?
jcmom69 1 year, 10 months ago
My husband and I along with another couple are going to check it out this evening..
Rison 1 year, 10 months ago
Bow chicka wow wow...let us know how it goes ; )
3DMom 1 year, 10 months ago
I'm actually really impressed that there have been no negative comments so far. This will keep revenue locally rather than taking it up to Columbia or down to the Lake which is a great thing! So glad to have an adult store in town that's not owned by a creepy guy in a residential neighborhood.
nitrohype 1 year, 10 months ago
100% Agree!
dazy1961 1 year, 10 months ago
Really? Shut the business down? Is it near a church? A school? If you don't like the idea of the store being there, then DON'T GO IN!!! I didn't see a blaring sign that says "Adult Store" anywhere when I drove by the other day. I was a bit surprised to see the store, knowing how stuffy and closed-minded some in Jefferson City are. But then I thought, well, good for the city. Since when is lingerie evil? The store is going to turn us all into deviants just by its presence in the city? Oh, I can feel the sin creeping up on me as I type. Ladies, get a life. There are far more important things to be worrying about, such as the possible flooding of the area, the economy, unemployment--although I'm sure the people hired by Cirilla's are grateful to have jobs now, and the city will reap the benefits of more sales tax. And I'm sure the store is happy to have the free advertising. They'll have you to thank for the people who come in just to see what all the fuss is about, and who may...GASP...actually purchase some of that "evil" merchandise.
Mr_Grimm 1 year, 10 months ago
last time i checked there wasnt even a dirty picture in front. theres nothing wrong with the store. why werent these 2 in front of movie gallery when it had its "adult room"? didnt a lady above say her and her husband were going to go? whats wrong with a couple wanting to spice of their love life? maybe these ladies should take a trip inside and they wouldnt be so uptight about things. i had no plans on going before, but now i will just to support the store! "
JMO 1 year, 10 months ago
You're absolutely right. We must protect those lost souls who might purchase the devil's panties....with matching red leather bustier.
Mr_Grimm 1 year, 10 months ago
Right, because when these shops open in a town the kids go crazy wearing skin tight clothes and low cut t shirts and hang their pants to their knees! OH WAIT....thats ALREADY happened. So when these stores open people start going out to bars and looking for random partners...oh wait thats already happening to! Columbia has MULTIPLE of these stores and i dont recall people running down the streets using adult toys and playing dirty movies at the local swimming pool. GET OFF IT! Im a christian also and am not ABOUT to try and TWIST the word for my own opinions. many people going there ARE COUPLES. what they do inside their own relationship is NONE of your business. if you dot want the business here, dont support it. I dont see you nuts protesting at bars for the lack of commitment in 1 night stands, or outside ryans for the gluttony taking place inside.....must i go on? give it a break! no one is impressed!
bluesfan13 1 year, 10 months ago
So you believe the sale of lingere should be outlawed?
I'm confused by what people are so against in this particular store. Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Target, all sell personal lubricants, lingere, personal massagers, prophylactic devices, etc. Is it that this is the only thing this business carries that's the problem, or should these other retailers not sell those items either?
tigger2118c 1 year, 10 months ago
If these people are so concerned about JC citizens, they should be protesting that cigarette store on the blvd. I personally don't care, but these "concerned citizens" should get their priorities straight who dies from anything sold at Cirrilas???
jcmom69 1 year, 10 months ago
I went, I bought, I conquered the lame prude people!! It is set up very nice and tasteful.. nothing disturbing that I saw, except one older man with greasy gray hair creeping around the lube section;-)
JMO 1 year, 10 months ago
My husband and I went too, although we didn't buy anything...yet. You're right, it's not sleezy at all. The door says "Must be 18 to enter" and they actually carded a young man while I was there. There's nothing on the outside that would even raise an eyebrow. Up front is the clothing and generic racks of cards and bumper stickers - not all of which are even suggestive. You need to get about half way back before you see any "devices". And even then, it's not a superstore - it's not displayed in any sleezy or creepy manner, it's just a couple walls and racks of packaged items. If you accidently walked in - which no one would - you'd turn around before your poor holy eyes were offended.
splatmouse 1 year, 10 months ago
Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
So in closing, mind your own business and let people buy whatever they need to spice their lives up. We don't picket your church every time you chastise someone for something they did and condemn them to hell when you are supposed to forgive them. Hypocrites have no place in society.
By the way teaching people about understanding, compassion and learning from it is NEVER vain. So don't try to tell me I am saying anything about God in vain.
JMO 1 year, 10 months ago
Name me one business that teaches understanding and compassion.
readmore 1 year, 10 months ago
Legalized marijuana dispensaries, planned parenthood, colleges, girl scouts, boy scouts, Oh, right, they're not businesses.....doctor's offices, escort services, MDC (they have a myriad of services and places to get understanding and compassion.), if you're lucky, a police officer, attorneys, teachers, should I keep going or is this enough for you? oh, almost forgot. the ladies of Cirilla's are pros in understanding and compassion. ok, your turn.
JMO 1 year, 10 months ago
Oh I'm so terribly sorry....I suppose I should have said "retail business". My bad. And I never said the ladies - or men - at Cirilla's are pro's at anything. Just that it's not a retail business's "business" to teach understanding and compassion.
TraceyT 1 year, 10 months ago
No, actually it does mean that if you condemn others (more accurately translated than judge), you will be condemned. It is quite clear that the intent is not just to "be careful". I also don't understand how "it is everyone's business", and I don't think people who are happy that others are "standing up for decency" have put much thought into the over-generalized statement. Who's standard of "decency" are you willing to use, other than your own? Remember, the pilgrims didn't come to this land to get away from persecution by athiests, but did it to get away from persecution by other "christian" religions.
Not_Sure 1 year, 10 months ago
Well, I guess they had better hustle it on over with their signs to the Mediacom office and the phone company, because there's a whole lot worse things to be found on the internet.
And while they're at it, they need to Google for the lyrics to "Witch Hunt" by the band Rush.
TheRickster 1 year, 10 months ago
Build it and they will come!1 LOL What will the backwoods folks complain about next. Sure, this is the best advertisement that is posible and FREE!
This was only news to the lonely two women!
asb 1 year, 10 months ago
Poor Grace, sees self as the only one right in a thread full of wrong. Hey folks, the retail sex industry can be one sleazy line of work, but it's OK in Jeff because the market for true sleaze is already completely monopolized by city hall, the Cole co commission meeting rooms, and the Capitol. A sex shop like Cirilla's could sell bibles from the same shelf as their naughtiest bits and not raise a demon or any pruiance. We're jaded by true masters, a sex shop is fast food here.
jcmom69 1 year, 10 months ago
the only public service you are doing here is displaying your closed mind, and unwillingness to accept the fact that there is nothing immoral about this store or it's contents.choose your words more wisely and look up definitions if you must.. All I ask is for you to agree to disagree at this point in this matter.
jcmom69 1 year, 10 months ago
We B smokin and the smoke shop across the river sell worse things than this shop..If they were doing what was attempted by MB last year I could see the point but this is a tastefully setup shop for adults..not a sleazy strip club that offers sex for money. I for one hope this place makes it.
Rison 1 year, 10 months ago
We B Smokin was just a small shop near Wal-Mart until the holier than thou crowd started complaining about K2, which nobody even knew about yet. After all the negative reporting on it, everyone flocked there. The result? They had to move to a much larger, higher traffic area. Here's hoping Cirilla's grows enough to require a larger building too. And also, here's hoping that people will mind their own business in the future.
gofish 1 year, 10 months ago
How ironic. Their signs say "stop the p-orn". For some reason they are blind to the fact that a little further down the parking lot is Hastings. Hastings sells adult magazines (p-orn). So does Barnes and Noble. Funny how they never protested Hastings or any of the local gas stations that also sell hard and soft core p-orn. Fair is fair ladies and you are hypocrits. Either be against it at every business in Jeff City, or spend more time with your familes....educating them about evil naked people, including the inflatable ones.
tonto 1 year, 10 months ago
Graceful is correct. It's a definition problem. These two protesters have made a choice that a lot of us would not consider logical but they are not hypocrites. If the manager of the Hastings store or the manager of one of the local gas stations or smoke shops that sell the same or worse merchandise was to picket the new gift shop, THAT would be hypocrisy.
jcmom69 1 year, 10 months ago
if these women shop at any store carrying adult material then that would be considered hypocritical.
online_editor 1 year, 10 months ago
I removed a post for name calling. Please refrain from insulting other forum participants and focus instead of the issue-oriented points you'd like to make. Thanks. --Rick Brown, online editor, News Tribune
julier 1 year, 10 months ago
I would like store properly labeled. They don't have to because they don't sell enough of the content. The store looks like a gift shop and the first thing you see is the adult content. If they label the store properly, Then the picketing will stop. I would like more disclosure of what kind of business it is on the front of the building.
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dazy1961 1 year, 10 months ago
So if the business slaps "XXX", "X-Rated Content", or "Caution: P-orn Shop" signs all over the building then the picketing will stop? Do you really think so? I think it would draw far more protesters who will move heaven and earth to get the shop run out of town on a rail--surely having an adult store in the city will be the ruin of us all.
JMO 1 year, 10 months ago
I agree with dazy. Putting "adult store" or XXX on the front would certainly be tacky and more offensive than what they have. Looks to me like they are trying to be as inoffensive as possible. You say "the first thing you see is the "adult content". Have you been in? Because the first thing you see from the door is lingerie and a rack with buttons and a rack with greeting cards. No lotions, oils or toys - they are all nearer the back and you have to walk into the store to see them. No one could possibly confuse this place with Hallmark, but you aren't seeing the "adult content" right off the bat, unless you think a lacy bra should be considered "adult content".
LovinLife 1 year, 10 months ago
WOW, I didn't even know this store was open until I saw this article online, then read about it in the paper. Can't wait for my husband and I to visit!!! :)
dazy1961 1 year, 10 months ago
As several people have already stated, if you don't like it, don't go in. And stop griping about it. And my response to "why must the immorality be pushed on everyone?" is "why must the moral police push their holier-than-thou ideals on those who may not be quite so holy?" Are we (the dreaded sinners who don't mind the store and its contents) supposed to cave and refuse to do business there just because the moral police tell us to? And why does every place have to cater to everybody? Well, it's called diversity, dear, and it would be a VERY dull town if we all did the exact same thing.
JMO 1 year, 10 months ago
I'd like to know exactly why this is so darn "immoral". Do you actually think this store will cause people to be more promiscuous? Because I can assure you - people have to be pretty darn comfortable with each other to break out the lotions and toys. A one night stands merit a condom and an awkward goodbye, not sexy lingerie. These stores cater for the most part to couples , bachelorette parties and people not expecting sex with another person.
jcmom69 1 year, 10 months ago
Ms. Grace, Thank you for that suggestion as I did just that.. I went in with my husband and found it very acceptable.. especially after we got home and the lights went out in the privacy of our bedroom.. Not only did we revel in each other for hours, we were ecstatic at the thought knowing we saved 15 to 20 dollars in gas not having to go to Columbia. Now that is unacceptable... ;-) Have a nice day.. I know I will
I wrote on here for I was afraid it might be unacceptable to post it under Ms. Grace;-)
JMO 1 year, 10 months ago
Good for you jcmom. And good for your husband too! ;-) Saving that gas money is practically better than - well, you know what.
JMO 1 year, 10 months ago
I note there has still not been an answer to my question. Exactly what about this is immoral or depraved? Why is this a store we don't want in the community?
jcmom69 1 year, 10 months ago
instead of assuming, why not go in and see for yourself, there is absolutely nothing in this store that would be considered actual PN. definition of this is: publications or broadcasts that demonstrate an unhealthy or voyeuristic interest in a particular subject: Cerillos does not sell hard core things or binoculars..Sensuality and eroticism are not considered pn, and these things are ARE good for the body and soul as well as the mind..
JMO 1 year, 10 months ago
binoculars? That's gotta be a typo, right? lol
Never mind...I just got it. lol!
jcmom69 1 year, 10 months ago
not at all.. i figured i would throw that in there since the definition of pn has voyeuristic;-)
JMO 1 year, 10 months ago
So...you don't even know what it sells? For what it's worth, I saw maybe a grand total of 15 videos and no magazines of any kind. While I didn't look closely at the movies, they appeared to be more instructional or erotic, not hard-core p-ornography. So let's assume I'm correct on what it sells...Does that change your opinion at all?
TraceyT 1 year, 10 months ago
I don't think most people here mind if you share your opinion. On the other hand, if you believe that trying to close a store, or stir up people with that intent, then you have left the "sharing your opinion" arena for the "actively push your ideals on others" arena. I believe that is what most people are reacting to.
NoMoBigBro 1 year, 10 months ago
I think that begs the question then...'Why does this place have to cater to only you?'
jcmom69 1 year, 10 months ago
I don't care what anyone negative has to say on this topic..I intend on making a once a month stop in to see what's new. New flavors in the edilble section for example..If it's considered by some to be immoral or whatever, then I guess they will have to line me up for a lashing..(oops, that's a fetish word, I apologize;-)
My husband and I agree that CIRILLA'S "It does a body good"...
Who needs Old Spice after 20 years of marriage? We prefer New Spice as opposed to fizzling out.
asb 1 year, 10 months ago
Grace, thank you for stating your point fairly and without rage. Yes, Jefferson City is OK, and a sex shop discretely selling items of interest to a much larger portion of JC than I would've expected is also OK. Most folks don't see sexy in retail as immoral, and it really isn't being pushed, just offered. Moral issues are important but this type of shop has been accepted universally in western culture forever, and you might consider standing on the side of allowing such commerce without interference from the government (your usual position) or even religious pressure. Regulate them, tax them, like every other business, but encourage them.
xhepera 1 year, 10 months ago
Graceful. . .a minor point. . .when Rome "fell" it was under Christian emperors, and had been for some time. Granted, Odoacer (who deposed the last emperor) was also Christian. But he was an Arian Christian. You would likely consider him a heretic. Educate yourself and stop repeating only what you hear or want to believe.
tonto 1 year, 10 months ago
A hostorical note to Graceful and xhepera. The Roman Empire was not really conquered or destroyed although Germanic tribes displaced Roman rule over the western part of the empire in modern Europe around 500 A.D. The eastern part of the empire survived another thousand years. That's the part that was supplanted by Christian emperors; temporarily during the crusades and then permanently, as xhepera wrote. The gradual disintegration of the empire over the same years resulted from leadership failure, and economic and infrastructure problems.
jcmom69 1 year, 10 months ago
guess the editor didn't approve of my last comment so I suppose I should apologize for the lashing out at a certain judgmental individual, however I just can't muster the words but out of respect for the rules I will bite me tongue in the future, or at least tone it down. Ms. Grace To be of immoral quality one needs to exhibit signs of such, in which enhancing ones sex life particularly in a married couple is not immoral. No promiscuity, no prostitution, no crimes, only the participation of 2 people who both consent. There is nothing wrong/immoral with lingerie, sensual oils, devices, movies, fantasies.. these are all natural and healthy for couples as long as they are both on the same page. The store is not promoting infidelity, prostitution, rape, incest, child molestation, etc. If things found within the walls are used for those immoral and illegal things, it sure is of no fault of the store. There is not a store in this city that a very wide variety of what you call "immoral" could not be bought with illegal intentions in mind, however because of 2 woman who decided to scream "p o r n" people want to sit on their pedestals and look down on those who are for keeping their marriages/sex lives from getting boring, and try new things. It is not fair of you to judge by using the word immoral when there is NOTHING immoral about this store or it's contents, or the people who walk in it. It is what people choose to do with things that could be held as wrong/evil/immoral, and again I say this can be accomplished by several items at most every retail shop in our town. I can walk into a grocery store and go the intimate isle and find devices such as that new triphoria Intimate Massager by trojan,sensual oils, mood enhancers, etc..The only difference in this shop is it a wider variety and focuses on one area of human nature and their needs. It is healthy and natural for individuals and couples to experiment and explore.
JCLifer 1 year, 10 months ago
Walmart sells baseball bats. They are seriously dangerous weapons that have caused more harm to people than a DVD movie.
Why not protest in front of WalMart too?
tonto 1 year, 10 months ago
Aberrant behavior? Your imagination seems pretty limited and your logic fails here. Baseball bats can be, and frequently are, used to maim and kill people. It's like with guns and every other type of violence - the problem is the criminal intent and not with the material used in the crime. JCMOM seems to understand that.
jcmom69 1 year, 10 months ago
yes I do.. in fact, I wonder if someone purchased duct tape and rope from Walmart and used those products for a crime, would anyone be upset at Walmart? Was anyone upset at the drugstores and other retailers for selling cold medicines used in the making of methamphetamines? As you said.. It is the intent and not the products that are the problem. While someone can purchase a "toy" from this store for personal or couple's consenting pleasure, another could buy the same toy for what is referred to abberant behavior. If you want to get technical you can walk to the produce isle and find items for the same things. LOL
JMO 1 year, 10 months ago
If you don't like that analogy...how about the fact that Wal-Mart, along with most other stores in town, carry KY Yours and Mine? I've heard Schnucks has the new triphoria massager by Trojan. Should we picket or try to shut them down?
tigger2118c 1 year, 10 months ago
They sell guns as well
jcmom69 1 year, 10 months ago
you are something else.. granted I am not one to enjoy a hard core p or n, however an erotic film is different, and I did not see any hard core in this shop.. and the local book stores sell these as well. Just because everything you define as "sexual" and or immoral is sold under one roof does not mean it is a bad place or their consumers are..
jcmom69 1 year, 10 months ago
obviously you have no clue what some consider to be exciting.. LOL now those people could be considered immoral..Grace, you seem to be conveniently missing the point here, so I will once again spell it out for you. There are items found in every store that could be and are used for sexual pleasure. The extent of which are over the "norm" does not make them bad people, unless of course they are engaging in forms that are brutal against someone else or non-consensual. What do you do when you need to purchase tampons? Do you avoid that isle due to the items you might consider to be immoral? Do you consider the flavored or textured condoms bad, since they are made to enhance pleasure? I am not understanding why just because a store is soley focused on the human body and items to enhance ones sexual relationships, you do not approve...I am not sure how aware if at all you are that sex is normal, as well as finding and exploring new ways to enjoy it, whether it is your own body or your partner or both. Boredom is easily reached, it takes an open mind and willingness to experiment to maintain a healthy sex life. Statistics even show that sex is at the top of the list in a lasting relationship, and I can guarantee you that it is not due to a woman playing dead in bed. It takes more than just opening your legs. I am sorry if what I say offends you but I am being honest, and I can honestly say that I am a proud Mother of 4 and have been married for the same man for 20 years, and we have a very healthy sex life, and I know how to please my husband and vise versa, which much of this has to do these types of stores that supply information and products for couples to experiment with. Whether it be an erotic film, massage oils, or a certain toy. This is not a bad thing, as a matter of fact, it is an amazing thing!
smc85 1 year, 10 months ago
It seems pretty obvious from your replies that you have never actually stepped foot in "one of these places". And on that same note, do not understand the difference between a place like Cirilla's and those located in Columbia. (And for the record I'm not dogging on the Como stores, my husband and I love having them near by) Chains like Cirilla's are not a "p-rn store" but rather a tasteful business that helps couples explore their love, interests, and maintaining a level of sexual pleasure. Where I'm from in Ohio we have stores like this and would you care to know their moto? Probably not but I'll tell you anyway "Monogomy shouldn't be monotonous!" These stores are steeped in the belief that it is important for couples to be healthy in the bedroom, because when there is a healthy sex life it keeps the romance alive. Have you ever thought that maybe by adding new elements of pleasure, couples remain happier? And maybe in a country where marriages end like the wind blows, a little "adult toy" can go a long way in preventing cheating and upset. It also seems that you can't get off your moral high-horse and open your mind to other views or opinions, and when that happens, it makes it hard for others to want to listen. If you and others don't like these stores, avoid them and try to have an understanding that not everyone who goes there are immoral sinners. Access to these stores with their funny/sexy cards, pleasing attire, and toys helped keep my marriage alive and exciting while my husband was deployed in a combat zone. Just like marriage, the sexual relationship between two people takes work and enthusiam and these stores help SOME couples with that. They aren't meant for everyone, and that's ok. Let those of us who enjoy them, enjoy them and those who don't agree can steer clear.
jcmom69 1 year, 10 months ago
well said!
jcmom69 1 year, 10 months ago
you have no interest in my personal life yet you openly condemn those who wish to have one. My personal life is kept private Ms. Grace, I just choose to share how open minded I am, without going into detailed information. You seem to be under the misconception that any and all sexually oriented things are of a bad nature, however you walk right by some of those things when you go grocery shopping or to the drug store. What exactly do you consider "THAT" industry? You seem to be stereotyping here. So I ask you, why do you avoid questions? We clearly are attempting to be open to trying to understand your view but you are making it difficult when you keep referring to this issue as something of immoral value. It is a far cry to purchase or sell something to enhance a relationship intimately and that of what is bought or sold for otherwise. It is not fair to judge to judge all places such as these the same as it would not be fair for me or anyone else to judge you solely on the basis of your personal opinion or belief.
jcmom69 1 year, 10 months ago
BTW, to my knowledge rapists, child molesters, etc, do not use cute little furry handcuffs, lacy lingerie, flavored condoms, bumper stickers, multispeed gadgets or wear edible undergarments to commit their heinous and immoral crimes.
JCLifer 1 year, 10 months ago
Even Christians like to have sex.
soxfan 1 year, 10 months ago
is that a police car in the back-upholding the law or buying? don l Chicago
Daniel 1 year, 10 months ago
I support Graceful. I think most of you miss the point of why people don't agree with businesses like this. There is nothing wrong with the lingerie or even toys. The adult content is the real issue. It has been proven to contribute to unrealistic and unhealthy expectations. It desensitizes the mind and body to more realistic sexual relationships and causes dysfunction in many cases. Many people have a religious component of their view as well. These videos pervert an act they believe to be intended for marriage.
That is not even considering how the adult video industry in general preys on women. I have always been amazed that feminists don't speak out against it. Sure some of the people want to be a part of it, but there have been so many cases where women have been preyed upon due to their money situation or emotional state.
Regardless of your views, you cannot fault these people for standing up for what they believe is right. So many people in these comments demonize them for doing so. You may not agree, but you too have the right and, might I say, the responsibility, to fight for what you believe in.
"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing". Despite your opinion on this matter, perhaps we all have something to learn from these women.
bluesfan13 1 year, 10 months ago
Except that you seem to be missing the point that THAT ISN'T WHAT THIS PLACE SELLS.
smc85 1 year, 10 months ago
JCMOM69 has summed up the nature of this store quite well and perhaps before people stereotype, they should do their research. This store does not sell PN, or XXX magazines... the videos they have are for the most part instructional, like erotic massage or "Sex over 60". I can totally understand where you're coming from that for SOME people PN can set unrealistic expectations and ruin relationships, but as adults we must be mature enough to manage in a world where people have different morals, virtues, and beliefs. If PN or the open exploration of sex is something taboo to you, or Grace, ect., then just let the store sit as it is and don't bother with it. It's not hurting anyone, it's a CHOICE to walk through the door or not. Even if this was a PN store, it holds no more stock than the bar down the road. It's all in personal opinion, and luckily we live in a country where we are free to have them and express them. I have very strong opinions on religion and why I don't believe in God, but that doesn't mean I'll go picket in a church lawn. Instead, I have CHOSEN to stear clear of churches and confrontations if all it will do is end up in a dead-end debate. The key to life is having an open mind and understanding that not everyone holds the same beliefs, whether that be with sex stores, religion, booze, ect.
As far as faulting those who oppose this store, we fault them for simple fact that not one post of opposition seemed to be accurate. Not one person had taken the time to find out what this place REALLY sells. They are judging us and this store on assumptions only. I would be more willing to credit them after a visit to Cirilla's than in the state of assumption they are determined to remain in.
tonto 1 year, 10 months ago
I am going to disagree. Most people are smart enough to tell the difference between the pictures in magazines and the real people around them. Those that aren't have more serious problems than that.
Many feminists have denounced the adult entertainment industry. You just haven't been paying attention.
A lot of people find it annoying when you tell them that your point of view is the only correct one and their point of view is unrealistic, unhealthy, desensitizing, perverted, sick, evil, an abomination, corrupt, or depraved. Standing up for what you believe does not require denouncing everyone who might disagree with you. People are entitled to their own opinions.
jcmom69 1 year, 10 months ago
The point most of us are clearly trying to make here is that there is a reason that the city did not label this is the PN category.. this is not a disgusting display of items and or videos that fall into that category. The difference is somewhat like the difference in 2 movies, using let's say.. 91/2 weeks with Kim Baysinger and Mickey Roarke and Debbie Does Dallas.. you have 2 movies both with sexual content however one is completely erotic, sensual and exciting and the other being raunchy and tasteless, with not much of a story line. Before you ask, no, this shop has neither one of these movies. The point being the content in Cirilla's is geared more on the intimacy side, Kama Sutra, body exploration, couple enhancement, getting to know your own body, etc. I ask what is wrong with this? Some seem to think it should be labeled properly, and I have no clue what they would like.. To label this a PN shop or XXX rated store would be a lie as they would have to sell hard core items and they do not. Like a bar selling only beer and wine, and you have to go elsewhere to find the hard liquor. There is something for everyone here, but if you are into the S&M or swings BDSM then you will have to go to Columbia as this is a very tasteful and playful store..
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