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Parole absconder charged with robbery in shooting case

Patrick Evans, age 37, of St. Louis, was taken into custody in connection with the shooting of a man in Jefferson City on Tuesday night.

By Jeff Haldiman
jhaldiman@newstribune.com
Published: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:24 PM CDT
A parole absconder from St. Louis is believed to have shot another man in a Tuesday night robbery near downtown Jefferson City, then was shot by one of his victims who acted in self-defense.

Patrick Evans, 37, who was released from prison two weeks ago, was found hiding in a small room in an upstairs apartment at 611 E. Capitol Ave. just after 7 a.m. Wednesday, more than 8 hours after the shooting incident downstairs at the same address, according to police reports.

"Officers were ready to re-canvass the area as daylight broke when they found a new blood trail which led to the apartment," said Capt. Mike Smith of the Jefferson City Police Department. "A female resident, we believe, helped hide him."

Late Wednesday afternoon, the Cole County prosecutor charged Evans with first-degree robbery. The charges say Evans also is known as Patrick Harris.

Prosecutors also charged Brenda Ellen Oakley, 42, with hindering prosecution.

Oakley has been working as a cook at Algoa Correctional Center for several years. The Missouri Department of Correction's investigative unit is working with local authorities in their investigation.

Evans suffered a gunshot wound to his left hand.

The man Evans is believed to have shot, a 34-year-old Jefferson City resident, underwent minor surgery Wednesday morning at University Hospital in Columbia. He was shot three times with a revolver, and his wounds were to his hands and shoulder.

His name was not immediately being released.

According to a Jefferson City Police Department probable cause statement, the robbery occurred around 10:22 p.m.

Police believe Evans approached a group of individuals outside the Capitol Avenue residence, brandishing a gun. He then ordered the group to go inside the residence and lie on the floor. He then began taking items from the victims. Evans ordered one of the victims to collect everyone's possessions.

While this was going on, one of the victims confronted Evans with a .45-caliber gun. The victim fired at Evans to defend himself and the other victims.

Evans admitted to the robbery in an interview with police, the statement said. He also indicated Oakley helped him with his injuries and allowed him to stay in her apartment to conceal him from authorities.

A search warrant of Oakley's apartment revealed a black, hooded sweatshirt, with the dragon design worn by Evans during the robbery, in a washing machine and a snub-nosed revolver hidden under Oakley's bed.

When questioned by authorities, Oakley denied knowledge of the robbery.

Earlier Coverage

UPDATE FILED AT 10:04 A.M. : A parole absconder from St. Louis, who had just gotten out of prison two weeks ago, is believed to have shot another man during what appears to have been a robbery late Tuesday night.

Just after 7 a.m. today (Wednesday), Jefferson City police found Patrick Evans, 37, hiding in a small room in an upstairs apartment at 611 E. Capitol Ave., which is above where the shooting incident occurred more than eight hours earlier.

"Officers were ready to re-canvass the area as daylight broke when they found a new blood trail which led to the apartment," said Capt. Mike Smith. "A female resident, we believe, helped hide him."

Formal charges are being sought against Evans, who was being treated for a gunshot wound to his left hand.

The man Evans is believed to have shot, a 34 year-old Jefferson City resident, was undergoing minor surgery Wednesday morning at University of Missouri Hospital in Columbia. He was shot three times with a revolver and his wounds were to his hands and shoulder. His name was not being released pending notification of relatives.

Police reports indicate the incident started just before 10:30 p.m. Tuesday.

When officers got there, they were told a man wearing a black hoodie or possibly a scarf had approached a group of individuals at the Capitol Avenue residence, brandishing a gun.

The suspect ordered the group to go into the residence and ordered them onto the floor and began to take items from the victims.

As this was going on, apparently one of the victims, armed with a .45 caliber gun, got into an exchange of gunfire with the suspect.

UPDATE 8:17 A.M. : A suspect is in custody in connection with a multiple shooting late Tuesday night at a downtown office that houses multiple attorneys' offices.

INITIAL COVERAGE FILED AT 12:15 A.M. WEDNESDAY: Jefferson City police reported they were called just before 10:30 p.m. to go to 611 East Capitol Avenue.

When they got there, police were told a black male wearing a black hoodie or possibly a scarf had approached a group of individuals at this residence, brandishing a gun.

The suspect ordered the group to go into the residence and ordered them onto the floor and began to take items from the victims.

As this was going on, apparently one of the victims was armed with a gun and got into an exchange with the suspect.

The victim, a male in his 30s, was shot multiple times, but police did not think his wounds were life-threatening. He was taken to St. Mary's Health Center and later transferred to University of Missouri Hospital in Columbia.

As of midnight, police were still looking for the man who had initially tried to rob the victims.

Officers searched the area on foot, along with canine units, and did find some traces of blood.



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JohnQ wrote on Oct 24, 2009 12:14 PM:

" " OLD MP Wrote: " The only thing the victim did wrong was not practice enough with his weapon and he obviously forgot what "center mass" was."

The victim was very lucky and courageous to even get a shot off after he had already been shot in the chest. It is easy for people to sit back and armchair quarterback this situation, but the bottom line is, you were not there. To bad there is not capital punishment for attempted murder. And his little mistress needs to rot in prison also for harboring this scum. She gives everyone that works corrections a black eye. The victim will be very well
represented when this goes to trial. "

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gungirl wrote on Oct 23, 2009 8:11 PM:

" " NT webmaster wrote on Oct 19, 2009 8:33 AM:

" I am told the injuries were not life threatening and although the victim was shot 3 times, the wounds were superficial, grazing the skin.

Patrick Evans on the other hand, suffers from a large wound in his hand from the .45 caliber shot discharged from the victim. "

NT webmaster,

You really need to get your facts straight. Shining_1 is correct. The victim will have a long road to recovery, and hopefully will regain full use of his hands. Prayers are with him. "

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joytotheworld wrote on Oct 23, 2009 7:43 PM:

" They are holding him on the robbery charge while they get a case for attempted murder together. "

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tourist wrote on Oct 23, 2009 6:26 PM:

" FIRST DEGREE ROBBERY? Are you kidding me? This guy SHOT a citizen who was trying to defend himself. HOW ABOUT ATTEMPTED MURDER CHARGES! Really....am I missing something? "

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Shining_1 wrote on Oct 23, 2009 2:15 PM:

" A little inconsistent on information, i would say.

The person who was shot by Evans did not just have superficial grazing injuries. He was shot in his chest, barely missing his lung, heart, artery, nerve bundle, etc. He was shot in both of his hands, and at first it was questionable whether he would ever have full use of his hands again. Luckily, he had an amazing surgeon who was able to put his shattered hands back together and should hopefully have full use of them after all healing.

"On the other hand" I have no sympathy at all for the injuries Evans received. "

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Shining_1 wrote on Oct 23, 2009 1:57 PM:

" NT webmaster wrote on Oct 19, 2009 8:33 AM:

" We likely will not follow up on the victim as the person wishes to remain anonymous. I am told the injuries were not life threatening and although the victim was shot 3 times, the wounds were superficial, grazing the skin.

Patrick Evans on the other hand, suffers from a large wound in his hand from the .45 caliber shot discharged from the victim. "

From article above:
"The man Evans is believed to have shot, a 34-year-old Jefferson City resident, underwent minor surgery Wednesday morning at University Hospital in Columbia. He was shot three times with a revolver, and his wounds were to his hands and shoulder." "

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misshoneybee wrote on Oct 22, 2009 9:40 PM:

" Boscoe--You can say THAT again! "

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boscoe wrote on Oct 22, 2009 3:02 PM:

" However, don't forget that the pay for COs is HORRIBLE.

It is pathetic what we pay these people who put their lives on the line dealing with the worse citizens of our state for us everyday. "

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@da'lake wrote on Oct 22, 2009 2:45 PM:

" The problem is that you, as CO's, are comparing it to your lifestyle when you aren't at work. Many times the standard of living, even at Algoa, is above what they had back home or on the streets. 3 hots, a bed, utilities, TV, etc.. Sometimes, folks just don't want to follow the rules...the punishment should be harsh and swift. "

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misshoneybee wrote on Oct 22, 2009 2:28 PM:

" The inmates do not qualify for trade programs until they get their GED. They no longer get a free college education, just a GED. Also, some offenders have to complete drug or alcohol treatment as well. Anyone that wants a true life experience--work at Algoa Correctional Center in the summer as a CO I and then tell me how good the inmates (and custody staff) have it. "

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misshoneybee wrote on Oct 22, 2009 2:23 PM:

" Thank you, Csquare--Algoa ain't no joke when it is extremely hot or cold--I worked there for 5 years..Back when it was high-medium custody level (3-4). Too bad it isn't like it was back in the day when the inmates worked the fields, grew their own food and then, in turn, cooked and consumed it. Those days are long gone. Algoa is not like ANY other correctional institution in Missouri. Custody staff, NOT non custody staff, suffers right along with the offenders. The inmates at Algoa don't eat great tasting food, they don't have free weights and the tv programming is lucky to be basic. Most inmates going in don't have a high school education, THAT'S most of the problem. "

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@da'lake wrote on Oct 22, 2009 2:16 PM:

" So because someone disagrees with you they are ignorant and/or stupid?

God I love the "intelligent" debate here. :rollingmyeyes: "

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Csquare wrote on Oct 22, 2009 2:10 PM:

" I will assure you, that kid that got canned for spray painting cars, will never forget what he did and will not do it again. Punishments need to fit the crime. "

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waitingontheend wrote on Oct 22, 2009 2:01 PM:

" Oh I am far from ignorant, and I don't think they should come back out into the public. I think the punishment that you get lets say Bancock should be used here. Deter the criminal from the start. "

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Csquare wrote on Oct 22, 2009 2:00 PM:

" A person can only be rehabilitated if they want to. Far to many times I have seen inmatee "Fake the Funk" just to get by so they can out sooner. The treatment they got did them no good as they were not interested in making THEMSELVES better. BTW not all prisons have A/C. I know from personal experience that Algoa is a sweat box in the summer. "

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boscoe wrote on Oct 22, 2009 1:59 PM:

" Notredamefan may have a point, but it needs to be done differently than it is done now. Maybe prison should be a harsh sentence of hard work and terror, but if they are to be released, an offender should be required to compete 1-2 years of "rehabilitation" to help ease them back into society. The addition 1-2 years of rehabilitation time could be time for them to earn a GED and an industry credential/certificate in a skilled trade (like ASE for Automotive, etc.). The offender could also get plenty of counsiling and personal living skills training too. Bottom Line: they need to repay their debt to society and be punished harshly, but then they also need to be rehabbed. "

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boscoe wrote on Oct 22, 2009 1:50 PM:

" We should make our prisons a living hell of terror, fear, and back-breaking work 7 days a week. If they are very uncomfortable houses of terror, these offenders will quickly learn not to commit their crimes in Missouri, but will go to "soft" places like the United Kingdom.

I could care less about the recidivism rate. If we have very low crime, who cares? However, if we properly punish offenders they won't be coming back for more anyway, so harsher prison conditions will lower both the recidivism and overall crime rates, which will be a GOOD THING.- better than Mac's Hug-A-Thug mentality that has proven to fail. "

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@da'lake wrote on Oct 22, 2009 1:46 PM:

" Let's compare recidivism rates to those of the Middle East that have harsher laws. Let's compare recidivism rates to that of ancient Mesopotamia. We are not the UK nor should we be. You want to coddle prisonses and be nice to them, fine, build your own little island prison and run it how you see fit. Until our society completely collapses, breaking the law means you get PUNISHED. They simply do not care about anything else...many of them are sitting in prison planning their next crime. It's what they do...... "

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Mac1974 wrote on Oct 22, 2009 1:40 PM:

" @da'lake said, "Coddling prisoners and running prisons based on the fallacy of rehabilitating is not working."

~~~~~As reported on BBC Radio 4 on 2 September 2005, the recidivism rates for released prisoners in the United States of America is 60% compared with 50% in the United Kingdom but cross-country statistical comparisons are often questionable. The report attributed the lower recidivism rate in the UK to a focus on rehabilitation and education of prisoners compared with the US focus on punishment, deterrence and keeping potentially dangerous individuals away from society.~~~~~~ "

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@da'lake wrote on Oct 22, 2009 12:51 PM:

" If you're so bent on attempting to rehabilitate, let's do it like the military....don't just let them walk into 3 hots and a cot, wtih A/C, TV, weight room and library. When you get them in, break them down...give them hard labor, teach them what it means to work, teach them respect. If they fail, they go back to the beginning and make big rocks into little rocks. They will repeat the process until they learn to conform to societal rules and are not a threat to law-abiding citizens.

BTW, you must have missed my earlier post. Had you read it, you would know that I can and will defend myself and my family from thugs. "

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misshoneybee wrote on Oct 22, 2009 12:40 PM:

" Yeah Csquare, hope she likes being an INMATE cook! LOL "

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@da'lake wrote on Oct 22, 2009 12:35 PM:

" Maybe you're failing to grab the point I'm trying to make. Coddling prisoners and running prisons based on the fallacy of rehabilitating is not working. Prisons populations are rising, recidivsm rates are up there. We tried the way you are talking about yet ex-cons keep going back to prison and new prisoners enter the system every day. We've tried your way and it is failing miserably. Let's stop TALKING about getting tough on crime and actually DO IT! "

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Csquare wrote on Oct 22, 2009 12:07 PM:

" I worked with Ms Oakley or Ms Homer as I knew her at Algoa. There were always signs but no one could ever get enough to catch her. As far as what happened to thug that was trying to hold some people hostage, you got what you deserved, I hope he get sent to a level 5 and gets a little freedom as possible. As for Ms Homer or Oakley I hope she likes being a cook at Vandallia or Chillicothe. Have fun. "

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notredamefan wrote on Oct 22, 2009 10:42 AM:

" waitingontheend and @da'lake, since you are both failing the grasp the point I am trying to make, I will clarify it for you. The majority of incarcerated offenders will be released from prison at some point in their lives. If you choose to treat them as caged animals, it would literally be like setting wild animals loose on the streets. If you think violent crime is bad now, watch out, because this is nothing compared to what it will be. If that is the way you choose to treat them, I hope you keep a small armory at your place of residence and best of luck. "

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stop wrote on Oct 22, 2009 10:16 AM:

" Please pause for just a moment and say a prayer for Elizabeth Oltens safe return to her family. "

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@da'lake wrote on Oct 22, 2009 9:41 AM:

" NDN - Obviously all the entertainment and "constructive programming" we have now isn't working. Look at the recidivism rates. Many of the inmates come from such poor social backgrounds that living the prison life is better than the life they were living on the streets or "back home".

Prison is about punishment. If you break the law you get PUNISHED, not "rehabilitated", period.

Frankly, I'm okay with treating them like caged animals.....if they want to act like animals in society, they will be treated like animals. Only the threat of REAL punishment will deter crime. "

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waitingontheend wrote on Oct 22, 2009 8:48 AM:

" NDfan said, The simple fact of the matter is that if you take prisoners and lock them in a cage 24/7 with no entertainment and no constructive programming, you have little more than a caged animal.
Yet we cage innocent animals all the time that have done nothing wrong and think nothing about it. These criminals deserve to be caged yet they are to be defended. So this statement says that if you cage a animal you make it mean and unruly yet people do it all the time and that is okay. If we were tougher in the prison system maybe some of these small time t hugs would think twice instead of getting a brochure on Disneyland. "

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misshoneybee wrote on Oct 22, 2009 8:40 AM:

" If and when I decide to obtain a permit to carry a gun--I will wear my gun on my hip for everyone to see. Heck, why conceal it? If criminals see that you're packin', then they won't be so apt to 'mess' with you. I don't know about anyone else but quite frankly, I'm going to protect me and mine and to heck with the fool that tries to take it away! "

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notredamefan wrote on Oct 22, 2009 8:09 AM:

" I will give the Middle East credit for one thing at least. You steal once, they cut off a hand. You steal twice, they cut off the other. Now that is a policy that could make a difference when it comes to crime. "

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notredamefan wrote on Oct 22, 2009 8:08 AM:

" The simple fact of the matter is that if you take prisoners and lock them in a cage 24/7 with no entertainment and no constructive programming, you have little more than a caged animal. You have to come to terms with the fact that $180,000,000 or more of our State Budget will go to Corrections every year for that programming and entertainment. Personally, I am not interested in living next door to the guy that has been locked in a cell by himself for 10 or 15 years. If you want to kill the crime rate, you are going about it in the exact opposite way from what you should. "

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notredamefan wrote on Oct 22, 2009 8:03 AM:

" @da'lake,
I don't disagree with you but we have to be realistic. The second you take away cable television, softball games and all the other goodies that prisoners are afforded these days, someone will go crying to the ACLU and there will be a lawsuit. Does it cost $2,000,000 to execute someone? No, that is the cost of feeding them, housing them and paying all of their legal fees while waiting on death row. I would say the death row inmates that don't use all of their appeals are few and far between and lets face it, our country is run by a majority of Democrats and that won't change while they are in power. "

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@da'lake wrote on Oct 22, 2009 7:54 AM:

" Give them a REASONABLE amount of appeals and then execute them....not behind locked doors. Exectue them PUBLICALLY & require it to be carried on network TV. Quit making prison life easy.....if nothing else make them smash big rocks into small rocks. Show criminals that we ARE serious about not putting up with dirt bags and thugs and crime rates will go down. "

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@da'lake wrote on Oct 22, 2009 7:49 AM:

" notredamefan wrote on Oct 22, 2009 7:22 AM:

" The same offender on probation or parole supervision would cost around $3500 per year to supervise. The average cost of putting someone to death is about $2,000,0000 and takes between 7 and 10 years. "

BULL!! Maybe if you count all the appeals it might cost $2 mil...but it doesn't not cost that to put someone to death. Part of the cost of putting someone to death is because we are supposed to care about not causing them pain. Frankly, I WANT them to feel pain...for the pain they inflicted in commiting their capital crime(s). "

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@da'lake wrote on Oct 22, 2009 7:48 AM:

" notredamefan wrote on Oct 22, 2009 7:19 AM:
" be prepared to pay a heck of a lot more in tax dollars. While I haven't seen recent statistics, it costs roughly $27,000 to incarcerate an offender per year. "

That's because we coddle prisoners. They sit in air conditioned housing, reading books, watching TV, working out in weightrooms and spend time in law libraries that rival some colleges and file frivolous suits. They have a better life than some war veterans. It's time to make prison unpleasant enough that they won't want to return and flip the bird to the ACLU when they object. These are PRISONERS people, let's start treating them like it. "

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notredamefan wrote on Oct 22, 2009 7:30 AM:

" Of course, we could always do it the old fashioned way with two to the chest and two to the head. "

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notredamefan wrote on Oct 22, 2009 7:22 AM:

" The same offender on probation or parole supervision would cost around $3500 per year to supervise. The average cost of putting someone to death is about $2,000,0000 and takes between 7 and 10 years. Like I said before, I agree that certain people don't need to be walking the streets but I am not interested in paying triple the taxes that I currently do. "

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notredamefan wrote on Oct 22, 2009 7:19 AM:

" I think the CCW laws are fantastic. If more people carried concealed I think criminals would think twice about who they robbed. This is a very unfortunate incident. It is too bad we can't predict recidivism and unfortunately, our stated has laws in place governing how long we can incarcerate certain offenders. On the flip side of the coin, there are an awful lot of people in these discussions who want to lock people up and throw away the key. I don't disagree with this sentiment, however, be prepared to pay a heck of a lot more in tax dollars. While I haven't seen recent statistics, it costs roughly $27,000 to incarcerate an offender per year. "

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hometeam wrote on Oct 21, 2009 12:49 PM:

" I happen to know one of the robbery victims, I can assure you he is a stand up citizen, and the victims where well within rights to defend themselves.

More good citizens with guns is never a bad thing. "

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gofish wrote on Oct 21, 2009 9:48 AM:

" @da'lake wrote " I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6. I will do whatever is necessary to defend myself and my family from thugs. "

Amen to that one. I agree 110%. "

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@da'lake wrote on Oct 21, 2009 8:07 AM:

" I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6. I will do whatever is necessary to defend myself and my family from thugs. "

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yamahamian wrote on Oct 21, 2009 7:47 AM:

" "Experience has shown me whenever deadly force is used, it's best done so within the letter of the law."

Good point WOW. Cause if its not done within the letter of the law I think its called murder? LOL. "

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wow wrote on Oct 19, 2009 5:29 PM:

" Glad the victim will be alright and was smart enough 2B legally CCWing. He/she was also able 2save his/her life and that of a few others. Sir/Mam I wish you a speedy recovery and a big thanks 4doing it the right way. Legally CCWing is the way 2do things, thanks.

NT thanks 4getting the information 2answer my question. Any1 else who didn't like my opinion. Cool with me. I'm not soft on crime or criminals. Experience has shown me whenever deadly force is used, it's best done so within the letter of the law.

The-facts say-good shoot. May the victim and his/her family enjoy a long life. "

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joytotheworld wrote on Oct 19, 2009 3:28 PM:

" Was this your brother or something WOW? First off, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF HE HAD CCW OR NOT! IT WAS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY

Second, YES, he was legal, as anyone who doesn't want to be a victim is. "

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blueknight wrote on Oct 19, 2009 2:23 PM:

" CCW is irrelevant when in your home or place of business. If the victim had permission from the owner to have a handgun, it doesnt matter.

The victim in this story chose to become a sheepdog and stop being sheep when the wolf came knocking. "

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AMAZED wrote on Oct 19, 2009 11:31 AM:

" That was a great observation Boomer. I would say however there is at least one additional knucklehead on the posting site. "

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fishing01 wrote on Oct 19, 2009 9:14 AM:

" I have a relative that owns a law firm in this area. I only wish someone in his office has a conceal and carry. In my opinion, this victim may saved lives. I am not sure who this victim is, but I kind of doubt that he is a thug. I have a question....does it upset law enforcement when someone takes the law into their own hands??? If so, too bad. "

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Boomer wrote on Oct 19, 2009 9:09 AM:

" I do agree with you Wow in that there was at least two knuckleheads involved in this crime.
The convict, and the woman that hid him for hours while the police searched for him.
Those are the thugs. Not the people he intended to rob.
I think there will be a position open in corrections for a cook real soon. I hope she'll get to see prison food from the other side of the tray for a while. "

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Boomer wrote on Oct 19, 2009 8:54 AM:

" This didn't happen in a parking lot. This was on private property. It started on the carport on private property, The victims were ordered inside the private property. I don't know, but once inside if the conceal and carry would be a issue. If someone invades private property, I think the person leasing, or owing it has every right to defend their property, especially when confronted by someone with a gun that has declared they intend to rob them and others at the very least. Do you know what else he intended to do? I don't , but in that situation I support the action taken to defend themselves. CCW or not. If the real thugs don't have rules, why should we? "

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Boomer wrote on Oct 19, 2009 8:53 AM:

" So WOW,... Ever been robbed at gun point, or threatened by someone carrying a gun? You seem very opposed to the right of a person to protect themselves. I gather you'd rather have police file a report about the robbery and murder of people rather than read about the prevention of the crime. Guns are in the possession of criminals. That is a fact. So anyone carrying a gun is automatically a thug? It's people carrying guns that make our city as safe as it is. To me, protecting ourselves is not just a right, but a duty of each person. While I don't think everyone should be "packing heat" I have no problem with CCW. "

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NT webmaster wrote on Oct 19, 2009 8:33 AM:

" We likely will not follow up on the victim as the person wishes to remain anonymous. I am told the injuries were not life threatening and although the victim was shot 3 times, the wounds were superficial, grazing the skin.

Patrick Evans on the other hand, suffers from a large wound in his hand from the .45 caliber shot discharged from the victim. "

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NT webmaster wrote on Oct 19, 2009 8:29 AM:

" I think we can safely put away the argument that the victim in this robbery/ shooting did not have a permit to conceal and carry. I am told he did in fact have a permit. "

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waitingontheend wrote on Oct 19, 2009 8:25 AM:

" NT - are you going to do a follow up with the condition of the victim and how he is getting along. Also, their side of the story now that all has settled down would be nice. "

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waitingontheend wrote on Oct 19, 2009 8:23 AM:

" I for the record will say that the victim was legal to carry. I know the family as well as three of the people that were there. "

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AMAZED wrote on Oct 19, 2009 7:49 AM:

" It never ceases to amaze me how one, safely esconced behind an anonymous post, can describe someone being robbed and fired upon as a thug and a knucklehead for defending themselves and others. It is a despicable and cowardly description Those making these assertions scare me. Not the ones who protect themselves. The post written definately champions the position that citizens do not have the right to defend themselves. Whether the victim was a legal CCW or not is immaterial. He saved his life and the life of others and to call it it differently merely indicates the writer would rather see people robbed and murdered instead of defending themselves. "

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NT webmaster wrote on Oct 19, 2009 6:57 AM:

" Wow-
I will check on this. "

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wow wrote on Oct 19, 2009 6:51 AM:

" I asked "was the robbery victim legally CCWing?" I also said, "if not, there may be a bigger problem to deal with".

The information I read states he/she was able to shoot the would be robber, it does not say the victim was legally CCWing. And if I'm correct, there were two knuckleheads illegally in possession of weapons shooting at each other. If I'm wrong, then horraaay for justice. My stance on this is not to champion the illegal use of weapons by anyone.

NT was the victim truly an innocent citizen acting in self defense? "

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jack deeken wrote on Oct 18, 2009 7:39 PM:

" A classic example of how gun control does not work.This guy was just released from prison and was legally banned from haviing a gun.The only gun controll that works is having a steady hand so you can hit your target.Jack Deeken "

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joytotheworld wrote on Oct 18, 2009 6:23 PM:

" Yea, there are several posters I pay no attention to, they are just trolling. "

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AMAZED wrote on Oct 18, 2009 6:12 PM:

" Did read that right? WOW calls the innocent law abiding victim a thug? Yes I did.
Amazing! Not really if you follow the threads of WOW's comments. Do not defend yourself and support criminal acts for felons appears to be the common thread. "

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AMAZED wrote on Oct 18, 2009 6:09 PM:

" Hey WOW! I'll bet if you were there you wouldn't be saving any comments. "

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misshoneybee wrote on Oct 18, 2009 12:53 PM:

" That's right--kill the killers...or at least maim 'em! "

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joytotheworld wrote on Oct 18, 2009 12:35 PM:

" Yea, we need to take JC back from these idiots! "

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average_joe wrote on Oct 18, 2009 10:56 AM:

" I happen to know the victim and his familly. He did have a CCW license..........I am very proud of him for exercising his right to carry and his right to defend himself and his friends. This is a good example of "survival of the fittest." It is time for us all to put a stop to the criminal acts of society's preditors....... "

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greenbean wrote on Oct 17, 2009 9:59 PM:

" Thank goodness that citizen had a gun and permit to carry.

The robber had a LOADED gun. He had them laying face down on the floor/ground of his own "home base". It was not like he could let them live.
He was only out of prison a few weeks and could afford a gun and made sure it was loaded.

The robber even brought some of the guys in from outside at gunpoint to make sure he had them all rounded up together. I hope the robber is also charged with attempted murder.

The 34 year old man with a gun saved all their lives. God was with them 4 sure. "

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wow wrote on Oct 17, 2009 4:55 PM:

" Let's make sure this was a case where a person was legally CCW and able to the weapon to save his/her life. Cheering #1 gun packing thug for being faster at the draw than #2 gun packing thug who was trying to rob #1 thug and his friends....well that's not really something anyone should be celebrating. Was the robbery victim legally CCW? If not, there may be a bigger problem to deal with.

So until I know more....I'll be saving my further comments. Stay safe. "

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misshoneybee wrote on Oct 17, 2009 9:51 AM:

" She obiviously was involved with an inmate (offender) while she was enployed with DOC, which is a NO NO, from jump. Who knows what else she's been doing. YUCK! "

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chakkers wrote on Oct 16, 2009 11:12 PM:

" If Ms. Oakley is found guilty she needs to spend a few years behind bars herself. NO PROBATION. "

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boscoe wrote on Oct 16, 2009 9:00 PM:

" If Jefferson City Council was serious about fighting crime in this town, they would make Conceal and Carry MANDATORY for all residents 21 years and older.

Conceal and Carry is one of the best rights we still (barely) have. Everyone should carry a weapon on them. Even a can of bear mace can offer excellent protection against the multitude of criminals, thugs, and gang-bangers we have in this town. "

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Jays79 wrote on Oct 16, 2009 4:11 PM:

" Blueknight RIGHT ON! Fight everyday for your love ones and friends. This Convict could have killed them ALL! Chalk one up for carry and conceal! Give the man the keys to the CITY! "

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blueknight wrote on Oct 16, 2009 2:14 PM:

" I think its a great thing to see a citizen of Jefferson City lawfully fight back to defend themselves and his friends. "

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waitingontheend wrote on Oct 16, 2009 12:46 PM:

" I know some of the people that were there and they feared they were going to be killed. This scum should have never been let out. G - I for one think you have aged quite well and never considered you a nerd. :) "

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gofish wrote on Oct 16, 2009 10:04 AM:

" bndyvcky, I'm giving this convicted felon about as much respect as he deserves for shooting an innocent man. The only "respect" he deserves is a fair and speedy trial so he can return to his animal cage. "

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bndyvcky wrote on Oct 16, 2009 9:12 AM:

" gofish -
Just like Madoff, you and I are not exempt from being tempted with just the right circumstances, if you haven't already and the law doesn't apply, but I wouldn't call you trash, etc. I still would give you the proper respect b/c you are a human being. "

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joytotheworld wrote on Oct 16, 2009 7:25 AM:

" HMarie said:" Am I the only one who wonders why it took our cops 8 hours to find someone who never left the scene? "

He was upstairs, and the door was locked. They had to get into the apartment legally. They didn't leave the scene before everything could be checked out and they got their man. "

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joytotheworld wrote on Oct 16, 2009 7:23 AM:

" Remember, someone usually holds the gun in front of them, that's why so many people are shot in the hands.

This should be a wake up call to everyone that CCW is a good thing. We aren't going to go get fingerprinted and a background check so we can rob or just shoot people, we want to defend ourselves from scum like this guy. Look into it, the more the better. "

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joytotheworld wrote on Oct 16, 2009 7:21 AM:

" OLD MP Wrote: " The only thing the victim did wrong was not practice enough with his weapon and he obviously forgot what "center mass" was."

The victim was laying on his stomach with his gun under him, which he did while being laid out execution style on the floor. When the robber saw his holster as he was taking their wallets, he turned the victim over and started shooting. He was shot 3 times before he could actually get a shot off. It's not as easy as just shoot him, there were things going on besides just a point and shoot. He was lucky to get ANY shots off without being executed first. "Center Mass" is where the gun was, thus the shot. "

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bluenurse wrote on Oct 15, 2009 9:37 PM:

" Oh no. Another bad apple giving all of us St. Louis Knuckleheads a bad name. "

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cinnamon wrote on Oct 15, 2009 5:10 PM:

" First there was Bonnie and Clyde. Now we have a Cook and a Crook.

Marie -- thanks for supporting the Police Department... "

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gofish wrote on Oct 15, 2009 4:59 PM:

" The flip side of your opinion Marie is that the crime scene was so well protected that not even the crook could get away from it. Here's hoping that half his hand is missing so that he'll have something funny to look at in prison and never be able to fire a gun again with that hand.

Honeybee, sack of nickels! Priceless humor!!! No need for curbside recycling for either of these two. Speed on to the landfill and bury them. "

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hmarie775 wrote on Oct 15, 2009 4:28 PM:

" Am I the only one who wonders why it took our cops 8 hours to find someone who never left the scene? "

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AMAZED wrote on Oct 15, 2009 2:45 PM:

" Should have explained it better. What I meant was he was just out of prison and already had a place to live and his own cook. That's how he did better than us. "

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misshoneybee wrote on Oct 15, 2009 12:56 PM:

" Hey AMAZED--He didn't have it that good--prison food ain't like eating at Towne Grill, lol! And did you see the picture of that COOK?! Looks like someone hit her in the face with a sack of nickels. She looks like she'd fit in right nicely with the Apache Flats Hold-Up Gang. "

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AMAZED wrote on Oct 15, 2009 12:14 PM:

" Evans had it better than most of us, what with a personal cook and all that went with it. "

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misshoneybee wrote on Oct 15, 2009 12:01 PM:

" Kristy, honey, I learned this the hard way--if you don't see your post, refresh the page;) "

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misshoneybee wrote on Oct 15, 2009 12:00 PM:

" I wish LE had found him before he started shooting at people because the LEO's might have found the gun on his person and had the perfect opportunity to blow him away. Talk about CENTER MASS! "

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Kristy wrote on Oct 15, 2009 11:52 AM:

" " The sad thing is that if this guy had been stopped by LE prior to this shooting and LE used the 'stop-and-frisk' policy on him, he no doubt would have cried 'profiling' all the way to ACLU! " "

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Kristy wrote on Oct 15, 2009 11:39 AM:

" The sad thing is that if this guy had been stopped by LE prior to this shooting and LE used the 'stop-and-frisk' policy on him, he no doubt would cried 'profiling' all the way to ACLU! "

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cinnamon wrote on Oct 15, 2009 11:39 AM:

" I just think Evans immediately saw the lawlessness in this town following the "Trash Disposal Act of 2009", and figured he could do whatever he wants. "

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misshoneybee wrote on Oct 15, 2009 10:56 AM:

" AMAZED--That's the funniest thing I've read all day!

Who are we to imped Mr. Evans' in his ardent endeavor of making a living by strong arming and robbing innocent civilians of their personal property? We working folks are not suppose to stand in Mr. Evans' way while he's pillaging and plundering all over the county when he's on 'vacation' (parole)! "

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AMAZED wrote on Oct 15, 2009 9:47 AM:

" Evans needs to contact the ACLU immediately and retain counsel. He should sue the shooter and all others present for refusing to grant him his civil liberty of making a living. How dare someone not allow him to rob them at gunpoint. This incident and the prior one in Apache Flats prove without a doubt that gun control does not work and citizens should not be allowed to interfere with a criminal's right to deprive them of their property. After all, making an honest is just not acceptible in today's society and the sooner working people understnd this the better off we all will be. "

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G.Willikers wrote on Oct 15, 2009 9:34 AM:

" ...that's a classic example and, as usual, it is the liberals that fling insults and names first when someone stands up to them and has differing opinions. "

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G.Willikers wrote on Oct 15, 2009 9:33 AM:

" You are spot on boscoe. The other thing I find hilarious about reunions is the girls that everyone wanted to go out with in school are NOTHING to look at now...at least at my reunions. I've remained in good shape, relatively LOL, but time has NOT been kind to most the teenage beauty queens from my high school days. And what is with the most vocal parents at kids sporting events being the parents that did NOT play sports themselves?

Old MP - This new age, politically correct BS has ruined this country. People are either afraid to stand up for themselves or get attacked for doing so....just look at the comments about Rush buying the Rams..... "

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boscoe wrote on Oct 15, 2009 9:26 AM:

" Three strikes and you get the needle! "

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gofish wrote on Oct 15, 2009 9:21 AM:

" bndyvcky wrote "There by the grace of God go you". "

Surely you are joking. Your quip might apply if I was an absonded parolee, fresh out of prison, committing assault and armed robbery. Anything otherwise is an insult to the law abiding citizen. Are you a fellow armed felon/bank robber or what?

I'm hoping there will be additional charges of Felon with a Gun, Armed Criminal Action, and 1st Degree Assault. The PA needs to throw the book at this FELON.

Personally, I believe he had his chance for the past two weeks. The death penalty should be used for trash like him that apparently have no intention of become a productive member of society. "

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misshoneybee wrote on Oct 15, 2009 9:18 AM:

" Oops--the word I want is PERSONALITY---sorry! "

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misshoneybee wrote on Oct 15, 2009 9:17 AM:

" 'Cause quite frankly, G., if I had to do it all over again and couldn't get the one I've got now, I want GOOD LOOKS and a ton of cash...No one wants to walk around with a troll on their arm! I can live without personally--I've got enough personally for THREE people! LOL! "

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misshoneybee wrote on Oct 15, 2009 9:14 AM:

" Hey waitingontheend--I remember a lady that worked in DOC several years ago...wonderfully intelligent, drop-dead gorgeous woman that worked in non custody (parole) and fell for a convicted loser. I worked with this woman for FIVE years and never in a million years would I have ever thought that SHE, of all people, would fall for an inmate (offender). I guess you never really know.

Hey G., I actually got me a 'GREAT' man and I am so lucky to have gotten a man that treats me like a queen, has a great personally, stays in excellent shape and is very good-looking. "

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OLD MP wrote on Oct 15, 2009 9:10 AM:

" I can't help but wonder if we aren't responsible for some of this with our politically correct society we have created. Call it what it is...it's time to stop hugging trees and stand up for yourself. I read one of the blogs asking why are they coming to Jefferson City and Columbia...I say it is because they see us as easy marks. If they victim would not have been armed, the convict most likely would have gotten away. The only thing the victim did wrong was not practice enough with his weapon and he obviously forgot what "center mass" was. Until the thugs get the message that we will protect ourselves, they will keep coming. "CENTER MASS" "

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boscoe wrote on Oct 15, 2009 9:07 AM:

" AMEN GWillikers! I love going to high school reunions to see the comeuppance of all the girls who married the long-haired lawbreaker wild-hair guys who abused them and don't support their children, and who are now living in a shack in a alcohol/drug induced stupor. These girls wouldn't give the rest of us nerds the time of day back then, but now we have stable jobs, nice homes, nice cars, work hard, go to church, etc. "

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G.Willikers wrote on Oct 15, 2009 8:31 AM:

" Now if the judges and courts would do their job and lock folks up instead of giving them probation. Quit locking up nonviolent drug offenders, especially the pot smokers, and open up those spaces for people that need to be locked up. Its time to make prison time mean PUNISHMENT. Put them on chain gangs, make them smash big rocks into little rocks, etc.. Some of the prisoners have it better on the inside than they lived on the outside. Make prison unpleasant enough they will not want to return. "

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bndyvcky wrote on Oct 15, 2009 8:07 AM:

" We are glad the JCPD do a fine job when it comes to criminals. It's wonderful they caught the man and the woman should be greatly reprimanded; however, they are still human beings and should be treated as such, name caling isn't helping anything. "There by the grace of God go you". "

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waitingontheend wrote on Oct 15, 2009 8:02 AM:

" This isn't the first time a DOC worker has taken up with a con. I know someone that is very pretty and has fallen for the "they did me wrong, have sympathy for me story" thug at a facility and I just don't get it. "

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G.Willikers wrote on Oct 15, 2009 7:39 AM:

" Out of prison for 2 weeks and back to commiting crimes...while living with a cook from DOC. He's shown he will not conform to societal laws.....lock him up, shove him off on a raft, whatever, it's timefor him to go. As for the DOC worker that he was living/staying with. She needs to receive maximum punishment and DOC needs to start interviewing to fill her vacant position. "

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tonyhorton wrote on Oct 15, 2009 7:29 AM:

" why are all of these thugs coming to jefferson city? what's the deal? what's changed? is it drugs? gangs? seems like all the news is lately form columbia/jeff city is another robbery/home invasion/shooting. go back to st louis or kc and leave our small towns alone "

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misshoneybee wrote on Oct 15, 2009 7:00 AM:

" Thank you, JCPD! For clearing the trash off the streets! "

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misshoneybee wrote on Oct 15, 2009 7:00 AM:

" Guess he missed his three hots and a cot. And as far as that Oakley woman is concerned, she makes all female corrections staff look bad. I saw women fall for that inmate junk all the time when I worked at Algoa years ago. There is NOTHING attractive about a man on lockdown...Unless he WORKS there and KEEPS the criminals on lockdown, like my husband does!

Glad one of the victims had some 'fire power' to fight back...too bad Evans didn't get one in the belly...or better yet, in the head! Then we wouldn't have to pay for his three hots and a cot all over again! "

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hmarie775 wrote on Oct 15, 2009 6:37 AM:

" I am glad he was caught but am confused as to how it could take 8 hours to find someone who never left the scene of the crime.... "

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gofish wrote on Oct 15, 2009 12:20 AM:

" Big kudos to the JCPD who stuck it out and captured this piece of garbage. Life in prison would be a nice ending to this story. Prayers out to the wounded. "

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