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Published: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:35 PM CDT

A Jefferson City man has been charged with trying to intimidate a judge during a sentencing hearing for his brother.

Jamie T. Williams, 17, of 605 Mulberry, is facing a misdemeanor charge of disturbing a judicial proceeding.

According to court documents, Williams was attending the sentencing of John Williams on Monday.

John Williams had been found guilty by a jury for his involvement in the shooting of another man last year and Presiding Judge Pat Joyce sentenced him to 20 years in prison.

When that occurred, Jamie Williams became irate and began to yell at Judge Joyce that she couldn't sentence his brother to 20 years in prison.

Jamie Williams was told several times to sit down and keep quiet by court bailiffs, but continued to yell, got out of his seat and made his way towards the judge's bench.

He was about to get to the area where a table for defendants and lawyers is located before he was subdued by bailiffs and Jefferson City police officers who were on hand to testify during the sentencing hearing. He was handcuffed and taken into custody.

John Williams was escorted out by Cole County Jail personnel and the Williams family also was taken outside the courtroom.

Joyce and her staff went back into the judge's chambers while the courtroom was cleared.

No injuries were reported in the incident.


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CoorsLight wrote on Aug 26, 2009 6:29 PM:

" Children's behavior, good and bad, directly reflects on the parents. 'Nuff said. "

misshoneybee wrote on Aug 26, 2009 8:37 AM:

" I don't know...the way some of us go off in this forum...there may be some retribution in our future...LOL! "

Bsnoltth wrote on Aug 26, 2009 8:18 AM:

" misshoneybee wrote
"high-speed pursuit in the downtown area and resist arrest, we might get tased and thrown in the clink. Zoo-Wee Mama...What a story that would be!"

Nah, the worst you would get is probation. "

misshoneybee wrote on Aug 25, 2009 5:34 PM:

" Nametags? We don't need no stinkin' nametags! LOL! "

misshoneybee wrote on Aug 25, 2009 5:33 PM:

" Boscoe, you reckon we'll all get probation if we get arrested for public drunkness while carousing aroung town in the trolley? I don't drink, so I'll commandeer the trolley! If we start a high-speed pursuit in the downtown area and resist arrest, we might get tased and thrown in the clink. Zoo-Wee Mama...What a story that would be! "

misshoneybee wrote on Aug 25, 2009 5:27 PM:

" Hey Ricky, when's the party, bro? We're hungry and thirsty! "

boscoe wrote on Aug 25, 2009 5:13 PM:

" I thought the party was at Rick's house, and he was going to buy a bunch of steaks and beer. We could all get drunk and ride around in the trolley!

I'm supposed to make the nametags. That is troubling me, though. "

misshoneybee wrote on Aug 25, 2009 4:50 PM:

" I don't know, Boxergal, Boscoe hasn't gotten back to me yet! LOL! "

boxergal wrote on Aug 25, 2009 4:03 PM:

" OH MY GOD, you have a party and I wasn't invited??? "

misshoneybee wrote on Aug 25, 2009 12:35 PM:

" Just let me know the place and time, Boscoe! By the way, will there be cake? "

boscoe wrote on Aug 25, 2009 8:53 AM:

" misshoney, you sound like a real cool lady who has her head bolted on tight and in the right direction. I look forward to meeting you in person at the next NT Forum Party. "

misshoneybee wrote on Aug 25, 2009 6:50 AM:

" I'm glad, Facts, but read thoroughly--this post will probably get pulled. NT doesn't like when I talk bad about Joe Jackson or Obama;) "

factsnodrama wrote on Aug 25, 2009 6:31 AM:

" Amen, and on point, excellent post miss. "

misshoneybee wrote on Aug 25, 2009 6:18 AM:

" I do not empathize nor will I sympathize with this criminal. I don't give a flying fig about what was going through his mind when he decided to start clowning in the courtroom. I have seen family members go to jail. I don't need to look to Obama, I DIDN'T vote for him and in my opinion, he hasn't experienced the true 'plight' of the black man.

I don't have to worry about becoming a single parent because my child has a strong, honest, black, retired military daddy..A daddy with strong values and integrity that does NOT wear his pants hanging off his _ss and doesn't make getting in and out of prison a career. He keeps a 9to5. "

factsnodrama wrote on Aug 24, 2009 8:58 PM:

" dcdecook1 wrote on Aug 23, 2009 9:46 PM:

" Look at President Obama his mother was a single mother who raised him by her self. So everyone who wants to talk about the way kids act from single parent homes I would be careful what I say b/c you never know you might end up a single parent or one of your children might be a single parent as you would."

Yeah he was raised by his white mother, then she checked out too and he was raised by his WHITE grandparents, they raised him for the majority of his teenage years. All because of another absentee black father. Thats-the-only-reason-he-turned-out-the-way-he did, one parent-cannot-do-the-work-of-two. "

factsnodrama wrote on Aug 24, 2009 8:52 PM:

" dcdecook1 wrote on Aug 23, 2009 9:26 PM:

"Now on to the boys actions I am not saying what he did is right or wrong but I emphazise with him."

rotflmao.....you what? hahahahahahahahaha!!! "

stop wrote on Aug 24, 2009 6:01 PM:

" Your could be right dalake . Ha! allowed to go out in public. Go back to Russia. "

misshoneybee wrote on Aug 24, 2009 4:02 PM:

" I'm sorry Boscoe--I didn't mean anything negative by that remark...it's a regular thing that my immediate family says:) "

boscoe wrote on Aug 24, 2009 3:39 PM:

" misshoneybee wrote: " I get _itched at by people from the black community for some of the things I say because they feel I am being prejudiced against my own people."

I'm not sure why skin color has any importance as to calling others your "own people". I define "my people" by the behaviors and/or religion, not by skin color.

Good comments, though. "

misshoneybee wrote on Aug 24, 2009 2:09 PM:

" I agreed with everything Bill Cosby said--he didn't get any flack from me. But I sho am gon' get some when people get off work and log on to the forum;)! "

@da'lake wrote on Aug 24, 2009 2:07 PM:

" Misshoneybee - You are in good company. Look at the flack that Bill Cosby and a few others have taken for taking portions of the black community to task over lack of personal responsibility, responsible parenting, absentee fathers, % of population in prison, etc.. Kudos to you for standing up for your beliefs!! "

misshoneybee wrote on Aug 24, 2009 1:42 PM:

" More appropriately---they believe that I'm only trying to help because I think I'm better than they are and they start to talk crazy to me. "

misshoneybee wrote on Aug 24, 2009 12:53 PM:

" I thought we agreed most of the time redblack--I sure agreed with that Judge Joyce comment!!! I get _itched at by people from the black community for some of the things I say because they feel I am being prejudiced against my own people. But in my opinion, this behavior is more prevalent in the black community because I see it all the time. And when I have tried to help some of these people 'in need', they think that you believe you're better than them and talk crazy to you. "

redblack564 wrote on Aug 24, 2009 12:08 PM:

" Miss Honey bee we Finally agree on something. This kid is probably just as guilty of crimes as his brother, just hasn't got caught yet. I can see him get angry or upset that his brother was locked up but you just don't get away with what he did with nothing. Lock him up for a few days and see if he cools off. "

misshoneybee wrote on Aug 24, 2009 12:07 PM:

" Oh, by the way, I'm not racist, I have black friends...that are live on section 8...that are single parents...that have kids running in and out of juvenile detention...the list goes ON and ON! (sarcasm) "

misshoneybee wrote on Aug 24, 2009 11:50 AM:

" over some dope or some 'dope' that's sleeping with me and another woman--That's just insane!! I'm NOT saying that the scenario that I just described is actually what happened but it's possible. "

Boomer wrote on Aug 24, 2009 11:47 AM:

" Well said Miss Honeybee. "

@da'lake wrote on Aug 24, 2009 11:46 AM:

" stop - Then you probably shouldn't be allowed out in public, unsupervised. If your emotions get the best of you and you hit someone first, you are still guilty of assault and need to receive maximum punishment because you simply cannot conduct yourself appropriately among folks in a civilized society. Stop....making excuses. "

misshoneybee wrote on Aug 24, 2009 11:41 AM:

" I simply can NOT empathize with a kid that is upset that his 'loving' brother was sentenced to prison. Should we make him happy and let his killer of a brother go free? I think NOT! John Williams shot a man twice in the back and once in the head. It may have been over drug activity but the police said that they weren't sure. In most of these cases that I have seen..it is usually over drugs or some skanky hussy that was sleeping with both of the men in the dispute. If someone comes into my home and tries to hurt me and mine, I'm putting a bullet in 'em. I'm not gonna start shooting "

stop wrote on Aug 24, 2009 11:12 AM:

" What a crock, everybodys emotions get the best of them sometimes. "

@da'lake wrote on Aug 24, 2009 10:42 AM:

" This difference between this thug and future criminal (if he doesn't already have a record) and other folks is that law abiding people do not "let their emotions get the best of them" so they don't make bad choices and act in ways that are illegal. Every one of you that is making excuses for this kid's CRIMINAL behavior in threatening a judge are part of the problem. He should have LEARNED something from his thug brother's actions, instead he acts just like him and you all are condoning it. Makes me ill.......

Amen misshoneybee!! "

misshoneybee wrote on Aug 24, 2009 10:18 AM:

" This knucklehead should be upset that his brother made the wrong choices that sent him to prison. He needs to have these charges pressed against him to show that snap decisions can lead to lock down. Perhaps this 'time' he's serving may deter him from any future bad behavior. In my opinion, that's pretty doubtful. I guess there's always hope...I'm fairly confident that we'll be reading about him going up the river pretty soon and I don't mean that he'll be floating on an inner tube! "

stop wrote on Aug 24, 2009 10:00 AM:

" What I see is a 17 year old boy upset over the fact that his brother is going to prison and let his emotions get the best of him. Unless there is a lot more to this story I would be inclined to give him a chance to cool off and the drop the charges and let him go. "

sillyrabbit wrote on Aug 24, 2009 9:54 AM:

" Well, now that Johnny has relinquished his "King Bonehead" crown I see we have an heir to the throne! I believe the word you were looking for is "symbolism." "

misshoneybee wrote on Aug 24, 2009 9:17 AM:

" this kind of upbringing but sadly MOST don't!

So if you think I am being racist, think what you will. I have worked in the prison and juvenile justice systems and I see this junk all I time. I don't like it but it is a sad fact. I truly don't like speaking about my people in these terms, but unfortunately a LOT of our people (Black) behave this way and want to blame their poor choices in life and the failure to raise their children properly on everyone else, obiviously including myself, of being racist. "

misshoneybee wrote on Aug 24, 2009 9:11 AM:

" in trouble, these same women want to blame everyone other than themselves. It's not MY fault that these women started acting fast at 14, 15, or 16 years old and ended up knocked up! Usually, these women are the product of the same behavior inthat their mothers were teens when they got pregnant and didn't know squat to teach their kids. I have said this before and I stand behind it firmly. If a person has a child as a teen and doesn't know _hit, what the heck can they teach a baby?! If all a child sees growing up is bad behavior and low or no values, what can we expect? Some kids can grow beyond "

misshoneybee wrote on Aug 24, 2009 9:01 AM:

" Thank you Bsnoltth, for confirming my racial background;)! And as for you dedecook1--I am NOT saying that all children raised in single parent homes turn out bad. I know several people (black and white) that raised their kids on their own and did a fantastic job. However, right here in Jefferson City, I have seen a large number of black women (and I'm SURE that there are plenty of white women as well) raising kids alone. The problem that I have with that situation is a lot of them don't work, continue to lay with and have kids with the same no-good bums that don't attempt to take care of their children. And when most of their kids get "

hmarie775 wrote on Aug 24, 2009 8:51 AM:

" VERY well said Boomer, you hit the nail on the head! "

boomer wrote on Aug 24, 2009 8:48 AM:

" This kid is like a lot of others already sitting in prison. They were never tought to respect themselves or others. Ghetto or Fith Avenue, it doesn't matter as much as learning to value your life, and the freedoms others bestowed upon you, (many at the cost of their own lives). If you don't know honor, and show no respect, you probably won't know freedom for long either. Hows that for basics? "

Boomer wrote on Aug 24, 2009 8:34 AM:

" Wow! To use Obama as an example of a successful single parented child is a heck of a stretch isn't it?!!! I mean what did they have in common with most disadvantaged single parent families? The home in Hawaii, or attending Harvard? At least pretend to keep it real!!! Being a single parent isn't nearly as tough when you have financial security and no worries about how your going to budget to feed you kids.. At least read his bio, then tell me if you think he grew up in a typical single parent family? I don't think so,........ "

Bsnoltth wrote on Aug 24, 2009 8:24 AM:

" dcdecook1 wrote
"this comment is for the racist speaking misshoneybee. You see what all the time kids acting out or as you put it "being GHETTO". Let me guess you watch alot of T.V. b/c you speaking like those people who say "oh im not racist I have black friends."

I'm pretty sure misshoneybee has stated she is black. Could be wrong though. "

boscoe wrote on Aug 23, 2009 11:17 PM:

" Jamie should have been tazed a few times. What an idiot. "

dcdecook1 wrote on Aug 23, 2009 9:46 PM:

" this comment is for the racist speaking misshoneybee. You see what all the time kids acting out or as you put it "being GHETTO". Let me guess you watch alot of T.V. b/c you speaking like those people who say "oh im not racist I have black friends" . Why don't you just be quite. Look at President Obama his mother was a single mother who raised him by her self. So everyone who wants to talk about the way kids act from single parent homes I would be careful what I say b/c you never know you might end up a single parent or one of your children might be a single parent as you would put with ghetto tendencies. "

dcdecook1 wrote on Aug 23, 2009 9:26 PM:

" I am extremely offended by all of these comments on single parents. I am a single mom of two and I am very involved in my children and i do everything possble to instill in my children the values that my mother instilled in me and she was a single parent. It doesn't matter how many parents in the home b/c one parent can give as much love and discipline as if there were two in the home. Now on to the boys actions I am not saying what he did is right or wrong but I emphazise with him. Until you watch one of your loved ones get sentenced to prison you will never understand what was going through his mind. "

misshoneybee wrote on Aug 23, 2009 7:55 AM:

" Give him 6 to 12 months and he'll be right beside his brother in prison. He may not be sent to the same one right away but they'll in up together sooner or later. "

kc911foryou wrote on Aug 22, 2009 7:49 PM:

" Cut the kid some slack? What are you thinking? The Jamie Williams could be dead right now for being aggressive an approaching the judge in a threatening manner. He could have been shot and killed by the Court Marshall or one of the police officers under cover of law.

Had he remained vocal I would say contempt of court or a reprimand and removal from the courtroom would have been appropriate. But that's NOT what happened.

You threaten a judge and you could end up dead. "

hmarie775 wrote on Aug 22, 2009 7:05 PM:

" You know...the teen was wrong to do what they did, but imagine you are watching your brother get sentenced to spend 20 years in prison. He was emotional and lost control, it happens when people get emotional. It sounds to me like he probably loved his brother very much and is going to miss having him home. Of course, the brother's sentence fit the crime and I'm not saying he shoudln't be getting the sentence, but I can understand how it would feel if it were my brother being taken away....cut the kid some slack people. "

factsnodrama wrote on Aug 22, 2009 5:17 PM:

" This family obviously failed miserably with one going and one on the way. They weer either bad parents or were not there or taught their kids the wrong values. These parents are lousy, and should be punished for the children they raised and hoisted onto society, I BLAME THE PARENTS. "

factsnodrama wrote on Aug 22, 2009 5:15 PM:

" Your missing the point entierly. Were saying if the parent is not there or is a piece of it, then the kid has a greater chance of being just like that. Of course a kid raised with full advantages of a stable home and all can make bad choices or just be a bad person. Were not talking about the minority of cases. We were speaking in general terms.

"""Quit pointing fingers at the moms and dads b/c if your children ever make bad choices do you want others pointing the fingers at you?! """"

Make us. :) "

offthachain wrote on Aug 22, 2009 4:32 PM:

" I dont think a child necessarily behaves badly b/c of how he was raised. I know parents who are wonderful and try anything and everything to instill values and morals into their children but you know what-they ARE going to make their own decisions at some point in life. Now whether or not that decision is good or bad is not always the parents fault. Its so easy to blame the parents to excuse a kids behavior. I made bad choices as a teen that didnt have anything to do with my parents. Quit pointing fingers at the moms and dads b/c if your children ever make bad choices do you want others pointing the fingers at you?! "

G.Willikers wrote on Aug 21, 2009 7:48 AM:

" facts - that's my point, it comes down to how involved the parent is. A 1 parent household with 1 child is probably more involved (hopefully) than a 1 parent household with say 3 children. However, a 2 parent household with parents that don't care probably have a greater chance of kids getting in trouble than a 1 parent household where the parents are involved. Bottom line, IMO, it comes down to parental involvement and responsibility and proper parenting, which there is a SEVERE lack of today regardless of the # of parents in the home. "

G.Willikers wrote on Aug 21, 2009 7:46 AM:

" To me, the actions here show a complete lack of respect by the teen. He has no respect for the court or judge and I'm willing to bet he shows the same lack of respect for his parent(s). Respect is something that is TAUGHT growing up, regardless of the # of parents in the home. "

factsnodrama wrote on Aug 21, 2009 6:24 AM:

" In general, it's better to have two parents in the home, if the parents are involved and if the parent are responsible. A single parent can rasie a good kid, the odds are just longer, as the job is twice as difficult.

I'd put money on this family having generational thug issues and criminal behavior. "

happy wrote on Aug 20, 2009 4:15 PM:

" Please don't get me wrong G.Willikers I do believe it is possible to raise a decent child when youre a single parent but it is sad but true that most of the kids that do get in trouble are from single parent homes, I would love to get the stats on this from the Juvenile center, how many kids that come in and out of that center are from broken homes? I think that numbers would surprise you.

I hate that it happens that way but it is just the way it is..I dont think most parents intend for it to happen but it just does. "

G.Willikers wrote on Aug 20, 2009 2:20 PM:

" happy - I believe the reason for that is that single parents simply do not focus on parenting. If you are a single parent, you have to work TWICE as hard to accomplish the same thing. So often times, I think the single parent either doesn't have the time, doesn't take the time, gives up or just lets the child run loose. I was essentially raised by a single parent because one parent traveled extensively for their job. We were raised to follow the rules, respect authority and our elders and use manners. I stand by my opinion that is has more to do with the LEVEL of involvement than the # of parents in the home. "

gofish wrote on Aug 20, 2009 1:44 PM:

" Ditto redblack564 "

happy wrote on Aug 20, 2009 1:40 PM:

" and it is not because the single parent is a "bad" parent it's just like at a day care when you have 2 people watching a group of children they are better behaved then if you had just one, you only have one set of eyes and can only be at one place at a time and a lot of single parents have to work two jobs which means the child is without supervision which means they get into more trouble, and before you attack what I say I understand that parents have to work and some more then one job and i truly feel for them but when a child is left alone they tend to test the limits and with no parent their-to-say-stop-it-it-just-doesnt-work. "

happy wrote on Aug 20, 2009 1:27 PM:

" G.Willikers I know I will be attacked for this also but I have to disagree with you, I think it makes a huge difference how many parents are in the house hold, are all kids from single parents bad kids, of course not but I will bet anything that the percentage of kids in and out of trouble is so much higher then those from a double parent home. I am not blaming the single parent because I know how hard it is but when you have two parents laying down the law it makes a world of difference. "

G.Willikers wrote on Aug 20, 2009 12:31 PM:

" You're right Misshoneybee, you are going to get jumped. I know MANY single parent households where the parent does NOT tolerate bad behavior or manners from their children. Many times the parent(s) are just as rude and behave just as badly as their kids, if not moreso. This has NOTHING to do with how many parents are in the home. It has to do with the level of parenting that exists, regardless of how many parents there are. "

redblack564 wrote on Aug 20, 2009 11:45 AM:

" Why don't he go live with Judge Joyce for 90 days. Maybe they will both learn something. maybe he will learn manners and respect and if not maybe she will learn not to give EVERYONE probation. "

joytotheworld wrote on Aug 20, 2009 10:31 AM:

" Please lower the boom on this thug wannabe. This kind of stuff needs to be dealt with, noy just say they are misguided.

HAMMER HIM!!!!! "

misshoneybee wrote on Aug 20, 2009 10:19 AM:

" oops--IN GENERAL "

misshoneybee wrote on Aug 20, 2009 10:18 AM:

" Don't forget to add drunk driving to that list, Average Joe;)! LOL! "

misshoneybee wrote on Aug 20, 2009 10:16 AM:

" That's the problem, Facts, the parents DIDN'T do a good job raising these two. Kids these days know how to exude home training (proper manners) to 'get over' but the parents don't instill it in their children to use respect and manners general because it's the right thing to do. Ghetto mentality! YES, I said it--GHETTO! I see this kind of stuff ALL the time! When the parents CONDONE their kids bad behavior instead of correcting it--THIS is the end result. I'm gonna get jumped on for saying this but they probably came out of a single parent household anyway! "

Average Joe wrote on Aug 20, 2009 10:05 AM:

" My guess is he won't get probation like the other murdering, thieving, drug selling bums we read about every day. "

factsnodrama wrote on Aug 19, 2009 8:39 PM:

" A 17 yo with that little respect for a judge, and the mentality that he could somehow get away with it? He's headed for the same place his brothers going, just a matter of time and sadly whom he hurts getting there. Sounds like the parents did a great job raising these boys. "

wow wrote on Aug 19, 2009 8:36 PM:

" This 17yr old is clearly out of his mind and should feel the full weight of the court system on his head. I hate2 kick a person when they're down, but this dude went waaaaaaay 2far over the line. Yelling at a judge is 1thing, but when he tried getting at the Judge 2do who knows what...in my book that is beyond "disturbing a judicial proceeding" and closer2 a more serious charge of threatening a court officer in this case the Judge.

I'm not sure what's gonna happen, but as a tax paying citizen. I request/expect the PA and Judge 2send a very strong message 2-all-the-little-homies-and-thugger-roos-out-there-that this bull%$#! will not be tolerated at all!

Stay-safe. "

brokendad wrote on Aug 19, 2009 8:21 PM:

" Now it will be like that T.V. show "Prison Break!" They can both be locked up together. I mean seriously....did he think that he was gonna change the judges mind?! "

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