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Fight and shooting probed at LU
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Lincoln University officials continue to investigate two incidents that occurred Thursday night.
According to Interim Public Safety Chief Bill Nelson, the first incident occurred around 8:30 p.m. when a fight was reported between the Scruggs University Center and Anthony Residence Hall.
“We don't know who was involved,” Nelson said. “When one of our officers arrived on the scene, the crowd broke up and left.”
The second incident was a report of a vehicle, which turned out to be registered to a Lincoln student, being shot at on the drivers side of the vehicle.
“We don't know if this occurred on campus or off,” Nelson said. “We're also not sure if these two incidents are related.”
There were no reports of injuries in either of these two incidents. Campus security and other local law enforcement agencies did some extra patrols around the campus, but no other incidents were reported.
According to Interim Public Safety Chief Bill Nelson, the first incident occurred around 8:30 p.m. when a fight was reported between the Scruggs University Center and Anthony Residence Hall.
“We don't know who was involved,” Nelson said. “When one of our officers arrived on the scene, the crowd broke up and left.”
The second incident was a report of a vehicle, which turned out to be registered to a Lincoln student, being shot at on the drivers side of the vehicle.
“We don't know if this occurred on campus or off,” Nelson said. “We're also not sure if these two incidents are related.”
There were no reports of injuries in either of these two incidents. Campus security and other local law enforcement agencies did some extra patrols around the campus, but no other incidents were reported.
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shinymcshine wrote on Nov 22, 2008 3:11 PM: " I really don't care how people dress. However when you DRESS to give the appearance of being a thug, you ACT like a thug too. I've not seen anyone that dressed like a "gangsta" that wasn't doing his best to BE "gangsta". If you CHOOSE to look the part, don't be shocked if the world doesn't give you the benefit of the doubt that you actually are what you're trying to look like. BTW. Love the baggie pants. LOVE EM! Makes them much easier to catch when we go cross country in foot pursuit. " Boscoe wrote on Nov 22, 2008 11:15 AM: " If they don't like to be treated like a hoodlum, then they shouldn't dress and act like a hoodlum. Simple. " joytotheworld wrote on Nov 21, 2008 10:30 PM: " What I meant is if you don't have enough sense to dress right, it would probably take a law to make you act right. NOT saying I think it should be a law, but saying it should be common sense. " harmorgan1979 wrote on Nov 21, 2008 8:26 AM: " Joy wrote, "Do you condone the way these people dress and act? If so, your a part of the problem. As long as society doesn't outlaw it, I guess it's OK to dress and act like a criminal these days?" You didn't say that as long as society doesn't outlaw it? What did you mean then because that is what is on the board? " online_editor wrote on Nov 20, 2008 8:26 PM: " Just a general reminder. Please don't bash on other participants; stay respectful and stick to issues. Let us know why you think something's good or bad, but if you've made a point, elaborated and clarified it, please don't monopolize the forum by arguing over it endlessly. You may have to agree to disagree, or at least not get stressed about dissension. Thanks. --Rick Brown, online editor, News Tribune " rojo wrote on Nov 20, 2008 7:24 PM: " News Flash - Most college/universities do not transfer all courses, either. The idea is to force students to actually earn degrees from one university. My transferred from Northwest Mo State to M.U. his junior year. Lost an entire year but ended up an MU grad. My LU degree landed me a spot in Grad School. No problem. Completed my master's in 18 mmonths. College Algebra is not exactly rocket science. Its a flunk-out course to thin the herd. " Boscoe wrote on Nov 20, 2008 6:14 PM: " A friend of mine went to Lincoln but found out that very few of Lincoln's course credits would transfer to University of Missouri. College Algebra at Lincoln wasn't even equal to Remedial Math at MU. He was really ticked that the State would let this happen and that he had wasted so much time and money at LU. Low expectations = low outcomes " joytotheworld wrote on Nov 20, 2008 5:13 PM: " Lol... I NEVER said we need to outlaw it, it should be a given to dress like you have some sense. I know my kids never went out the door looking stupid, I wouldn't let them. Parent's just don't give a rat's hiney anymore. " ProudLUStudent wrote on Nov 20, 2008 3:35 PM: " Is were are equal than why are we having this discussion? LU provides valuable resources to this community. And, we as an institution do not receive the credit and respect we deserve. We provide nurses and teachers to this community. Not to mention the opportunity to experience a rich heritage of diversity. The businesses in Jefferson City would suffer if the students and faculty did not frequent their establishments. " harmorgan1979 wrote on Nov 20, 2008 1:17 PM: " Joy you want to outlaw a whole culture? Please enlighten us all and tell us how YOU think people are suppose to dress? I'm sure you would be the first against socialism but have such socialist ideas. Outlawing a way a person should dress this is crazy! Making laws telling people what they can and cannot wear, can I say COMMUNIST! " joytotheworld wrote on Nov 20, 2008 12:51 PM: " Are you going to dig that hole all the way to China? Nope, just the facts. Do you condone the way these people dress and act? If so, your a part of the problem. As long as society doesn't outlaw it, I guess it's OK to dress and act like a criminal these days? What has this world come to..... " lige wrote on Nov 20, 2008 11:31 AM: " 'If you are in it, you are stupid, and if your white, it makes you that much stupider.' Are you going to dig that hole all the way to China? " online_editor wrote on Nov 20, 2008 10:08 AM: " I believe our forum can illuminate general topics of race and culture with civil discussion, and I see there's been some of that going on here. Stopping short of intentionally hateful comments, an airing out of perceptions and misconceptions can lead to greater understanding if handled with civility and respect for one another. However, emotions sometimes can run high in this type of discussion and it can lead to participants railing on one another, rather than sticking to issues. So, just as a general reminder, let's stay on the civil side of the discussion. Thanks. --Rick Brown, online editor, News Tribune " Mid-Mo wrote on Nov 20, 2008 9:40 AM: " joy- You are entitled to your own opinion. Sadly, you have no idea how offensive your statements are. I'm not even black and I am offended by your generalizations. It's not just what you are saying, it's the fact that you think what you are saying is ok. Just because you know black people at work doesn't make you any less racist. Just be fair, there are bad people in EVERY race. " joytotheworld wrote on Nov 20, 2008 9:37 AM: " Oh... I didn't understand that I guess. The "Hip-Hop Culture" ... isn't that the black people that rap about slappin' ho's and killin' cops and doing dope? If I remember correctly, a few big name guys got shot being apart of that culture, and I believe they were black. So I think to myself that the "Hip-Hop Culture" you speak about is the same thing I'm speaking about, only I can't say it's because they are black. Whatever culture you want to call it, it's downright disrespectful and stupid. If you are in it, you are stupid, and if your white, it makes you that much stupider. " Mid-Mo wrote on Nov 20, 2008 9:28 AM: " joy said- "When you are a white guy and sound on the phone like you are straight outta the ghetto, you are trying to act black. I understand blacks have their own language, but so do whites. ACT LIKE IT!! Trying to act like something your not doesn't make you "cool" ." How many ghettos have you been to? You seriously don't see your comments as racially discriminating? Are you kidding me? Blacks don't have their own universal language, nor do whites. What you are referring to is the language of HIP HOP CULTURE, which includes multiple races. A white kid that speaks that way is not "trying to be black," they are trying to be part of the hip hop culture. " joytotheworld wrote on Nov 19, 2008 9:31 PM: " And for the record, i know alot of black people from my work. I see the best, and I see the worst in ALL races. I really like alot of the blacks more than some of the whites. FACT. As long as you treat me with respect and not like your always trying to get over on me, I really don't care. Let's all be treated equal, not like one race is owed something. It isn't the 1900's anymore afterall.... " joytotheworld wrote on Nov 19, 2008 9:28 PM: " Contradict much? You say you're not racist, but make a statement like "You're not black, stop acting like it." With that statement alone you placed all blacks in the thug category, along with all white guys who dress in "that" style." Negative. When you are a white guy and sound on the phone like you are straight outta the ghetto, you are trying to act black. I understand blacks have their own language, but so do whites. ACT LIKE IT!! Trying to act like something your not doesn't make you "cool" . " pioneers wrote on Nov 19, 2008 9:08 PM: " It's my opinion Jeff City and central MO are witnessing an increase in crime. I know the police say it's just gang wannabes, but I don't believe that. And I don't think the problem is LU, I think that LU reflects what is happening everywhere. A few months ago there were articles about crime in Westview Heights. We see grafitti downtown. I ride my bike on the Katy Trail and see grafitti on every overpass that the trail goes under. Apparently Columbia is having problems with shootings etc. I read the police reports in the paper, YIKES!!!! It's everywhere, not just at LU. I don't know the answer, but I wish the police would stop telling us there's not a problem. " pioneers wrote on Nov 19, 2008 9:01 PM: " The online editor pointed out (maybe on the other article) several articles about things LU is doing. A plan to help medicare recipients wade through the options they have is one example of this university identifying a need and trying to meet it. I see so many different groups of people LU serves throughout the year: kids attending summer programs there, business people attending seminars, someone has mentioned their nursing program, they have trained many teachers I know. Those of you who continue to be harshly critical of this great school are seeing the glass half empty. As for a crime problem, LU is not the crime problem. Crime is simply increasing in this area, period. " pioneers wrote on Nov 19, 2008 8:56 PM: " Something that impresses me about LU is their campus. The grounds and buildings are something to be proud of. The Soldier's Memorial Plaza is incredible. They are constantly improving their campus. Speaking of the Soldier's Memorial Plaza, for those of you saying "Drive through the campus and look at those people!" I suggest you drive to the campus, park your car and go read the story about the soldiers who founded LU. They identified a need, for the children of slaves to learn to read in order to survive in America after the civil war. They founded this college to meet that need, Lincoln continues to identify needs and strives to meet them., .... to be continued... " pioneers wrote on Nov 19, 2008 8:51 PM: " Thanks for some good comments Wow. I remember when hot pants were a trend (ok ok, I'm old, get over it). To see the coeds on campuses all over this country you'd think they were all majoring in prostitution. But they weren't, probably. They were weariing the latest fashion. In the 60s and 70s dressing like a hippie was everywhere. Everyone wasn't a drug dealing pot head. They were just kids. I drive by Lincoln and walk on the campus a lot. What I see are kids dressing they way people dress in Chicago, St. Louis, LA, everywhere. I don't believe LU is a bad university, nor do I believe all the comments about a majority of the students being thugs. " harmorgan1979 wrote on Nov 19, 2008 7:54 PM: " Thank you WOW you are so right! We are the state capital here, and there are more white collar crimes committed then we could even imagine. However, the sad part is that this community accepts these behaviors because it is all this community knows. I am proud of being a LU graduate and always will be. Every school has bad apples but please don't judge the entire school. If and when JC gets their heads out of their bums this community will be one of the best in this great nation. " wow wrote on Nov 19, 2008 6:18 PM: " Thugs are not always those uneducated people who wear baggy pants, double XX shirts, ear rings or their hats backwards. Perhaps you should travel beyond JCand get a real look at who the real crooks are. These people wear suits and ties and look like the traditional nice neighbor. Sure "some" thugs wear the "Hip-Hop" clothes, but if you are banking on everybody that does that, your gonna miss some real serious criminals who are committing some real serious crimes. Look at the big banker's, oil executives or politicians. Hey for that matter, some cops are even thugs. It-aint-the-persons-clothes,-it's-always-the-person-actions-that-reveal-who-the-thugs-are. " shinymcshine wrote on Nov 19, 2008 4:43 PM: " Its kind of like these little goofs that used to wander around the mall on Friday nights that looked like extras from the Thiller music video, then acted completely offended because you dare LOOK at them. Hey! That's exactly why you dress like a freak! To get attention. They're successful. They accomplished their goal. I stare and if they ask, "what are YOU looking at" (and some do), I gladly TELL them. Undoubtedly, the freak-parade on Friday nights is part of why the mall has lost business and is hurting now. Once again, if you choose to look like a freak, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you are. " shinymcshine wrote on Nov 19, 2008 4:28 PM: " I completely agree. Race has nothing to do with "content of character". There's idiots of all colors. Race is irrelevant. HOWEVER, thugs CHOOSE to look a certain way. (Last time I checked, you didn't get to choose your race). When you CHOOSE to look a certain way, don't be shocked when you're VIEWED a certain way. It goes back to basic survival. If you get that chill in your spine when you're around potentially dangerous situations, you need to not ignore it. When people or situations seem "not right", they probably aren't. Be safe, not sorry. " harmorgan1979 wrote on Nov 19, 2008 4:14 PM: " Well joy based off of your comment "I do, I conceal and carry. ;) you are now a thug in my book, seeing how we can just judge others. You conceal and carry and so do "real thugs" just so you know the definition of a thug according to Webster is "a brutal ruffian or assassin" You conceal and carry which I don't have a problem with because so do I but the added comment about this is how you give back makes you a thug. Thug love to you and all of JC "thugs"! Shiny-much respect to you for serving our community, I just wish people were not judged by how they look but by the content of their character. Thank you! " Mid-Mo wrote on Nov 19, 2008 2:58 PM: " joytotheworld wrote: "And it's not all blacks, so please, don't discriminate against the ignorant white guys that apparently haven't looked in the mirror to realize... YOUR NOT BLACK! STOP ACTING LIKE IT!!!!" Contradict much? You say you're not racist, but make a statement like "You're not black, stop acting like it." With that statement alone you placed all blacks in the thug category, along with all white guys who dress in "that" style. How can you cite their ignorance when you don't even see your own "in the mirror"? Furthermore, people are "proclaiming" LU to be an HBCU because it IS an HBCU, that's a fact, not "the race card." " joytotheworld wrote on Nov 19, 2008 1:45 PM: " My comment wasn't aout race" Mmm, asking if I went to a neo-nazi march when we are talking about what some are proclaiming "a Historic Black college", that sounds racist to me. If it walks like a thug, dresses like a thug, acts like a thug, guess what? It's a thug. " Mid-Mo wrote on Nov 19, 2008 12:24 PM: " My comment wasn't aout race, it was just based on your comments. Besides, I was joking, at least I got an "lol" out of you. " joytotheworld wrote on Nov 19, 2008 12:23 PM: " Blacks are not suppresed anymore and Barack proves it. They have more rights and organizations to back them than any other group. Why must it always be about black or white? I don't get it. To me it doesn't matter what color you are. If you are no good, your no good. Period. I don't understand why some don't get it. " joytotheworld wrote on Nov 19, 2008 12:21 PM: " Lol... must be about race EVERY time there are blacks involved...typical. Did you enjoy your NAACP meeting? Get OVER IT. There is a black President for christ's sake, stop playing the race card. " Mid-Mo wrote on Nov 19, 2008 9:06 AM: " joy- Did you enjoy your downtown march a couple weekends ago? " joytotheworld wrote on Nov 18, 2008 6:38 PM: " And Harmorgan, you said: " I have a real problem when people don't like something but don't contribute anytime and effort working to fix it." I do, I conceal and carry. ;) I will do my part to put some more bleach in the gene pool if need be, meaning I will defend myself against these types of people. :) " joytotheworld wrote on Nov 18, 2008 6:34 PM: " And as Shiny says, if they dress like a "thug", they are a "thug" or a wannabe. Either way, they are not going to grow up and be doctors and Lawyers. And it's not all blacks, so please, don't discriminate against the ignorant white guys that apparently haven't looked in the mirror to realize... YOUR NOT BLACK! STOP ACTING LIKE IT!!!! So no, I'm not being racist. And Shiny... I'm sure you know what these dudes look like and what they do, so keep it up! " joytotheworld wrote on Nov 18, 2008 6:31 PM: " harmorgan1979, it's not the fact that it's a Historic Black College, that's great. I have a problem with the " (which is probably why you want it shut down)" part. That is ASSuming I am wanting it shut down because it's a Historical Black college, which couldn't be farther from the truth. THAT is playing the race card, IMO. " shinymcshine wrote on Nov 18, 2008 5:11 PM: " BTW, ODF, thanks for having my back. I appreciate the comments. " shinymcshine wrote on Nov 18, 2008 4:56 PM: " The last person in the world I need to try and explain anything to is the likes of you, Mac. I apparently DO know what a thug is as I've had no problem in finding more than my share. Thugs come in all shapes,sizes, and colors, but the attitude is generally pretty consistant. " naturally wrote on Nov 18, 2008 9:06 AM: " Mac - your liberal attitude is what allowed the thug-wannabees to trash the reputation of your flagship high school. Since you're probably not from around here you may not remember the pride in Hickman for our generation. Glenn Cobbins had it right, when we went to school there we respected authority and we respected the school. You apparently think they dress that way to be'in-fashion'. This ain't the west coast and we don't want it to be. " ODF wrote on Nov 18, 2008 8:21 AM: " Know a guy that did undercover drug buys in St. Louis for years. He lived in their world for several years. I guaran-darn-tee you that he can look at a dude and say "thug" and he'll be right 99.9% of the time. " ODF wrote on Nov 18, 2008 8:20 AM: " LOL!! You all dogpile shiny all you want, but if he's what he's represented himself as in these boards (and I always read Shiny's comments) then he'll be picking up the pieces of y'all when you get mugged by the gang-lookin' dude that you all say isn't a thug! LOL!! I have friends in a wide variety of law enforcement. They put away bad guys for a living. I would never discount their ability to separate thugs from street trash, etc.. " ODF wrote on Nov 18, 2008 8:16 AM: " If you dress like a thug, you're either a thug or a wannabe...but either way you're probably not a productive member of society. Maybe we shouldn't judge a book by it's cover...but it's also true that birds of a feather flock together....and look similar. " rojo wrote on Nov 18, 2008 12:51 AM: " Until the entrenched "Good 'Ol Boy" administration is gone, nothing will change at LU. A fight and shooting? Really? Actually, LU is safer now than 35 years ago. Rioters burned Memorial Hall, the bookstore, and ROTC building. They even trashed the News Tribune. A non-student lay shot to death in a dorm TV room for 12 hours before someone thought it odd he hadn't moved all day. I'm a '72 LU grad and proud of it. LU has had some great professors and grads have done great things. Dean Hoard believed ALL rules applied to ALL students. He ran off the riffraff - black and white- and things got better. Until the present Admin does so again, problems will continue. " Mac1974 wrote on Nov 17, 2008 10:26 PM: " Did I mention I flew to the moon once, Shiny. Yeahhhhhh, and I did it with a rocket I built in my basement...... yeahhhhhh that's the ticket! Just think, a police officer and a moon-man on the same thread at the same time. The odds..... I tell ya. " Mac1974 wrote on Nov 17, 2008 10:16 PM: " shinymcshine wrote on Nov 17, 2008 9:59 PM: I put THUGS in jail for a living. Don't preach to me about what a freaking thug is. I know first hand. What's a thug look like, shiny. Easy enough aye? That is...... if you don't mind sharing...... " shinymcshine wrote on Nov 17, 2008 9:59 PM: " I put THUGS in jail for a living. Don't preach to me about what a freaking thug is. I know first hand. Thugs don't just wake up one day looking the way they do. It takes effort to give the desired appearance. They WANT that look. They want to present the illusion of being a street thug and speak the language of the street. That's their choice, but don't blame others for shunning it. Whether they are ACTUAL thugs or not, its the desire to APPEAR to be a thug. I'll just give them the benefit of the doubt. That's what they want anyway. " harmorgan1979 wrote on Nov 17, 2008 9:05 PM: " Shiny-here you go! Check webster and educate yourself on what a thug really is! When you assume that someone is a thug by the way they are dress you make an ASSuME! Please people think through what you are posting your audience is a variety of people. Just because you think you know what a thug is does not mean that you really know. Dress has nothing to do with what a real thug is and there are very few true thugs in this community. Maybe an educated label would be misguided youth. So shiny how many hours a week do you volunteer in this community trying to make it a better place to live? " harmorgan1979 wrote on Nov 17, 2008 8:54 PM: " I'm sorry joy that I am all over but you are something else. I will share my fault, I cannot stand people who are overweight. I'm tired of hearing weight loss commercials, mad because they resized womens clothes to make obese shoppers feel better about themselves and feel that child obisity should be a form of child abuse. Now after saying that I just don't sit around and complain about overweight people I volunteer to support people who are trying to lose weight and help people develop healthy lifestyles. I have a real problem when people don't like something but don't contribute anytime and effort working to fix it. Writing on here isn't a community service since I know someone that thinks it is! " shinymcshine wrote on Nov 17, 2008 8:37 PM: " harmorgan1979 wrote on Nov 17, 2008 8:21 PM: " You really know that someone is a thug by looking at them?" Uh, yea! Nine times out of 10, if you dress, act, and "represent" like a thug, you ARE A THUG! Justify all you want, but Lincoln is unique in that they embrace the losers that just want to hang out and be a menace. True institutions of education don't want that element there. Lincoln would prefer to make excuses for it. Lincoln has the potential to provide a quality education. They'd rather love on thugs than be an inspiration for scholars. " harmorgan1979 wrote on Nov 17, 2008 8:36 PM: " JOY-Who are "those people" you are talking about? You have really hit a nerve with me on this. You are always crying about a race card but we all know who YOU are talking about when you say "THOSE PEOPLE" you mean the black students. Are you racist? If you are just accept it we all have faults. Jefferson City has many problems and the root of the problem from my opinion and note that I said my opinion is that this entire town is so 1950's. If you don't look a certian way, house look a certian way you are trash! Well guess what those of you that always judge I feel sorry for you on judgement day. Joy you should volunteer at LU! " harmorgan1979 wrote on Nov 17, 2008 8:21 PM: " "Couldn't be because there are a bunch of worthless trash there that are on grants to pay bills and think they are thugs could it? Drive through there anytime of day and just look at theose people. " OMG Please change your name joy because I have read many of your post and you definitly do not have an ounce of joy to share on here. You really know that someone is a thug by looking at them? Do you even know what a thug is? Webster could give you insight. How is stating the facts that LU is an Historically Black College playing the race card. I didn't know facts of history are playing race cards. Maybe you could benefit from an LU education! " nospinzone wrote on Nov 17, 2008 4:41 PM: " good for you mid mo, but these naysayers are right, lot of things wrong with that school even though some do end up with a degree and good job. Just because you and others walked out with degree and job, does not mean they are running a 4 star school over there. And many people are doing what you told LD to do , go to another school . Why do you think Linn Tech, Metro Business, State Fair and William Woods, and Columbia satellite schools are tripling there enrollment the last 10 years Simple... because Lincoln is not improving or keeping up with the times " Mid-Mo wrote on Nov 17, 2008 1:56 PM: " I can read...and write, unlike many of the people on this forum. Not everyone there is living off the government and not every student is a criminal. Many students, like me, work(ed) our way through college and didn't complain like LD. The tuition rate was excessive but most of the other schools in the U.S. did the same thing. Lincoln isn't the only place in the area to take night classes. That "joke" of a place landed most of my classmates and I some pretty good jobs. I'm so tired of people running LU down. I respectfully disagree with LD's opinion. If you think the place is such a joke, go to another school in the area or take online courses. " ODF wrote on Nov 17, 2008 1:31 PM: " Mid-Mo .... sometimes you have to take what you can get/pay for and make the most out of a bad situation. Not everyone can afford to live off they government, comment countless crimes and be a life long student/troublemaker. Did you not read that LD actually WORKS? Maybe you've heard of it.... " Mid-Mo wrote on Nov 17, 2008 1:29 PM: " If it's such a joke, why are you still going to classes there? " L D wrote on Nov 17, 2008 8:06 AM: " And you wonder why im on edge going to my night class there no thursdays.... the place is a joke. It used to be a nicer (still rough), cheaper place to get some courses out of the way while youre working, but, since they can raise their tuition by 18% in one year and get away with it, its no longer cheap... its just an overpriced, underfunded, horrible school.... Seriously, one night, my teacher didnt even know what class he was teaching, thats no lie. He had to ask us what class it was. This was like 5 weeks into the class too.... left me speechless.... " nospinzone wrote on Nov 16, 2008 9:37 PM: " said it before I will say it again , this is the most retroactive buisness/instituiton in the state. Their policies are still in the 18oo's , there programs miserably fail, such as athletic dept , their recruitment focuses on minorities .ete etc etc If this was not state run it would have been out of buisness a long time Some day I expect to see a dinosaur on campus, because they keep going back in tiime farther each day . Then when a problem occurs like this, you get the same reply. What problem we have no problems ? " Boscoe wrote on Nov 16, 2008 6:19 PM: " You brought up a very good point, CounterCouple. Lincoln is not doing much for the local students- that is why Linn State has grown by leaps and bounds. Webster University, William Woods, Columbia College, Metro, etc. all are providing courses and degrees that local students want. Even University of Missouri offers a degree program that can be taken by courses in Jefferson City. I don't know what the problem was with State Fair, but I do know a lot of people who got Computer Scieces degrees from State Fair who are now holding very well-paying jobs. The state needs to go in and put Lincoln under Linn State or else University of Missouri system. Duplication-of-administration-and-services-is-such-a-waste-of-tax-dollars. " countercouple wrote on Nov 16, 2008 5:38 PM: " I wonder if Linn Tech,...another local state funded university, has these kind of problems with violence and corruption? Oh thats right! we arent allowed to have two state funded institutions in the area because the choice limits LU's ability to bring in tuition dollars. Just like what happened with State Fair community College. Yet another reason I'm glad I moved away. " arliss wrote on Nov 16, 2008 12:13 PM: " LU and their THUGS will continue to be a campus concern and community concern as long as the present administration continues to protect them and coverup the corruption at LU. YES, ISAID CORRUPTION.Where does corruption start? Again, smebody investigate the termination of one Black female employee that was terrorized by some thugs from LU!!!! BELIEVE ME, STATISTICS DON'T TELL WHAT IS COVERED UP. " TheRickster wrote on Nov 16, 2008 8:22 AM: " Alot of the outside students have police records where they are from. The student body stats are one thing. Break it down to the dorms and that is where the trouble makers are. I saw some stats and it was 70 something white and makes them majority. The dorms are the opposite. Could it be that the university doesn't want police in the school. Security officers don't make a record to students, like a buffer systom. When they want, they call the real police to make the paper trail to a problem student. " joytotheworld wrote on Nov 15, 2008 8:35 PM: " I don't think anyone is saying it's the ONLY one, just the one that happens to be in our city. That's really the only problem we need to work on. Once we get our own city straight Boxer, THEN we can fix everyone elses problems. " boxergal wrote on Nov 15, 2008 5:35 PM: " sorry, not almost every student but you get the drift....a lot of students. Point is, I seriously doubt Lincoln is the only school with these problems. " boxergal wrote on Nov 15, 2008 5:28 PM: " You all need to google "University shootings". LU certainly hasn't cornered the market on it. " boxergal wrote on Nov 15, 2008 5:24 PM: " This whole forum cracks me up. I worked with someone whos son served time in federal prison because he was dealing to almost every student at MU. If you all think this stuff doesn't go on elsewhere, think again. " inthecity wrote on Nov 15, 2008 5:22 PM: " My point being is the LU needs to come out of the DARK AGES and into the modern era. Start the change by changing the name of Public Safety to POLICE. Second, give them better equipment and also better pay, and thrid, and most important, ALLOW THEM TO BE POLICE OFFICERS!!!!!!!!!!!! Its common knowledge among students there that JCPD does not play around but that Public Safety is a joke. Hence the change, that would allow the THUGS to think twice. " inthecity wrote on Nov 15, 2008 5:18 PM: " The current President supports Public Safety but is fed a bunch of JUNK by a certian VP that hates Police. It is this certian VP that will not allow Public Safety to be proactive and also act and be POLICE OFFICERS. Also think about it, the Police Officers there are called Public Safety, not POLICE, which doesnt exactly help. If you really think about it, the Capital Mall security is called Public Safety and they are UNARMED, NON COMMISSIONED, AND JUST SECURITY. This means that they (mall security) have to call the POLICE when something happens. The Public Safety and Lincoln are COMMISSIONED POLICE OFFICERS but are treated like DIRT because of the name. " boxergal wrote on Nov 15, 2008 5:12 PM: " Yes, so do I. Very well. Matter of fact she is going to Lincoln. So back to the school, it produces people that do land in good jobs. " inthecity wrote on Nov 15, 2008 5:11 PM: " Having worked for LU in the Public Safety area, I can tell you for a fact, YES FACT, that the school does not care who it recurits to go there, Open enrollment and no background checks allow the Thugs in. Yes there are decent people there, HOWEVER, I know for a fact that there are drug dealers living in the dorms (the whole 3rd floor of Martin Hall had drugs and scales in it, as well as guns) and close by. I know JCPD is reluctant to go onto the campus because the preivous chief and lt (not capitalized on purpose) didnt like REAL COPS on their turf. Also the previous administration (previous President) ran the Public Safety into the ground. " Boscoe wrote on Nov 15, 2008 4:07 PM: " JC is at fault because of the local climate that is very unfriendly to businesses, as well as the failure to fight for better wages of the biggest employer state government. The state is happy to pay subcontractors way higher wages all day long, but they pay their own employees who are often more qulalified than the contractor's employees peanuts. " boxergal wrote on Nov 15, 2008 2:10 PM: " And back to the subject, its probably not LU that has the problem, its the outsiders that visit. Just my opinion. " boxergal wrote on Nov 15, 2008 2:09 PM: " You are dreaming Boscoe. There aren't even any jobs around, much less ones that makes $57,000. NONE. When you talk that amount, you are talking degrees probably in the medical field. Nursing degrees do make that. Right about now, I am thinking any job is good because there just aren't any out there. Its not JC's fault, its the economy. " Boscoe wrote on Nov 15, 2008 1:47 PM: " This town needs some jobs. The state needs to upgrade their pay. As the largest employer in Central Missouri, the state is holding this town down in poverty and crime. Our local city leaders, local representatives and senators all need to be working hard to RAISE the PAY of state workers. Low pay and little oppiortunity in employment creates crime, slums, ghettos, and lots of other problems in JC. $30,000 salary for college degreed people is plain wrong, if not criminal. Why cannot people see how bad this town has become, and how desparate we need to clean it up and raise some standards? We need JOBS. " Boscoe wrote on Nov 15, 2008 1:44 PM: " Our town has changed greatly and it is not for the good. No one wants to admit it, but it is the truth. We have few good paying jobs here. Even college degreed people are stuck making jobs that pay $30,000 a year and people think that $30,000 is a good-paying job. Folks, it is right next to POVERTY level. Did you know that the average starting salary for bachelor degreed graduates from a state school less than an hour away is $57,000? AVERAGE STARTING PAY for a 22 YEAR OLD KID! " Boscoe wrote on Nov 15, 2008 1:41 PM: " Jefferson City has gone way down hill for the past 20 years and everyone from the city council to the school board wants to deny it. Our town is in deep trouble but yet everyone says to ignore it or else move if you don't like it. Free and reduced lunches at JC used to be around 25% for years, but in the last 20 years it has shot up to 45%. " pioneers wrote on Nov 15, 2008 11:23 AM: " It's my opinion that the incidents at LU show what is happening in other parts of Jeff City, as well as other communities: an increase in crime. I don't know what is causing it. I suspect that poverty, the drug market, and other social problems are major players. But a college campus, I don't think so. Any college will have a crime problem. Regardless of how any of us feel though, I for one want to see our community would get as hard on crime as possible. " pioneers wrote on Nov 15, 2008 11:11 AM: " There is an article in the paper today about the money coming into the community as a result of LU construction projects. It also discusses how well they perform on grants and contracts. As a result they are awarded more grants and contracts. Someone complained about the "race card" being played. I'm white and I recent the comments on this forum implying that the university has a negative impact on this town because of the kids going there. The comment that Joy made to just drive through there and look at those people was a pitiful comment. Joy, I feel for you. " Lige wrote on Nov 14, 2008 11:07 PM: " Here's the LU Public Safety web page. Check the three year crime statistics report. lincolnu.edu/pages/194.asp " countercouple wrote on Nov 14, 2008 10:57 PM: " The school has nothing to do with the violence beyond the violent ones sometimes are violent at LU. " joytotheworld wrote on Nov 14, 2008 10:57 PM: " Then obviously I'm not talking about her. Drive through there, you'll see what I mean. " countercouple wrote on Nov 14, 2008 10:55 PM: " In terms of violence at LU I always use the old pizza man guide and heres how you test it. Call any pizza place in jefferson city, order whatever type of pizza you desire and then ask them to deliver it to the LU Dorms. This should give you insight as to the violence level of the LU campus at the current time. To be fair, most pizza places do the same thing to white trash westveiw hieghts. " boxergal wrote on Nov 14, 2008 10:52 PM: " Drive through there and look at those people? You are kidding, right? Here a good one for ya....my future daughter in law is finishing nursing school there and holds an important job working for a surgeon in JC. Probably making more than you will make in a lifetime. " boxergal wrote on Nov 14, 2008 10:47 PM: " Yes, AJ, you are right. My husband has a degree in Biology from there. My son went there, his friend went there and so on. I even have a neighbor that is a professor there. He is a brilliant person that has done scientific work overseas and was up for an award at one time. I get tired of this stuff too. I think 9 times out of 10 its the uneducated people that have something nasty to say about it. " Lige wrote on Nov 14, 2008 10:34 PM: " Sorry about the lousy link below. i'll try to post it with a valid url. Thaanks. " Lige wrote on Nov 14, 2008 10:32 PM: " Joy wrote'I'm not here to argue, but there were shots fired from there' Read the article again joy. Where the shots were fired from has not yet been determined. The LU campus is a lot safer than many parts of the city proper. Even at night. Here's an interesting read: lincolnu.edu%2fPDFFiles%2fPublicSafety%2f2008SecurityReport.pdf " joytotheworld wrote on Nov 14, 2008 9:38 PM: " Right, it does have a positive role IN SOME CASES but someone played the race card, which irritates me. I stand by my statement, but also will admit there are good students there to better themselves, but the other kind as I said earlier too. I'm not here to argue, but there were shots fired from there and I think more people than me realize it is not all peaches and cream there. :) " John Biscayne wrote on Nov 14, 2008 9:21 PM: " AJ you have hit the nail on the head. LU students are hard working young adults who want to better themselves. " AJ wrote on Nov 14, 2008 8:53 PM: " It is so easy to set in your homes and complain about something you know nothing about. Why are you not getting involved with the school? Have you been to anything the school has to offer? Do you even know anyone who goes or has gone there? 90% of us are hard working adults trying to better ourselves and you sit there and want the school closed down? How dare you? That school was there before most of JC even was thought up.. read up on it's rich and varied history instead of condeming it outright.. besides The new chief at the school has done a wonderful job trying to clean up the area.. " John Biscayne wrote on Nov 14, 2008 7:59 PM: " My daughter is an LU grad. I really resent many of the comments here. LU plays an important role in our city and state. Many young persons receive a very good education at LU. They go on to pursue rewarding careers. Just like any other human activity, we can focus on the few who defile an institution, or the many who take advantage of opportunities presented to them. " joytotheworld wrote on Nov 14, 2008 6:46 PM: " Sunshine65 wrote: It not only is a Historically African American College (which is probably why you want it shut down) THE RACE CARD HAS BEEN PLAYED!!!!! Couldn't be because there are a bunch of worthless trash there that are on grants to pay bills and think they are thugs could it? Drive through there anytime of day and just look at theose people. My Gawd.... " sunshine65 wrote on Nov 14, 2008 4:16 PM: " Thanks Mac..I was just like who in their right mind would even write that... but from your post i see downtown is not in their right mind :0) " Mac1974 wrote on Nov 14, 2008 4:11 PM: " The breeding ground for criminal activity in Jefferson City appears to be the dirty futon in the treatment facility dorm room that Downtowner2 calls home. " Mac1974 wrote on Nov 14, 2008 4:08 PM: " He's jerkin your chain, Sunshine. Here's a quote from Downtowner2 with regard to an earlier story: downtowner2 wrote on Oct 21, 2008 12:24 PM: " kind of hard to see in the rear view mirror when is is covered with vomit from a prior episode. Anyway, thank God for cruise control, and if two eyes can't keep you straight on the road, the old one eye will. " " sunshine65 wrote on Nov 14, 2008 4:01 PM: " I mean downtowner2.. did you think about that comment before you posted it? That college has been here for many years and provided a great service to this community. It not only is a Historically African American College (which is probably why you want it shut down) but also has many jeff citian's as employees and others in the surrounding areas. now do i believe that the need to beef up ther security and make sure they are watching who they let go in and out of the campus.. But close it down.. UMM NO... " downtowner2 wrote on Nov 14, 2008 1:59 PM: " I've got a better idea. Shut down the school. It is a breeding ground for criminal activity. " |
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