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Blunt administration tried to block Neo-Nazi march

Gov. Matt Blunt

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Published: Wednesday, October 8, 2008 1:57 PM CDT

Gov. Matt Blunt said this week his administration considered every option for the Office of Administration to deny a permit for Neo-Nazis to march on state property in Jefferson City on Nov. 8, but the law does not allow for it.

In a news release, Blunt said he did not feel it was appropriate for taxpayer money to go to this group for its attorney's fees, as a loss in court was more likely if the lawful permit was challenged.

“The group crossed t's, dotted i's and otherwise met all requirements for a permit defined by law, so we were forced to allow them to be on the Capitol grounds,” said OA Commissioner Larry Schepker.

The group plans to march from the Governor's Mansion to the Capitol grounds.

“While I prefer to ignore this hate group, the media have continued to draw attention to their march and Missourians are asking why they are being allowed on Capitol grounds,” Blunt said, in the release. “The answer is they are benefiting from the very laws they seek to destroy.”


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skynbird wrote on Oct 28, 2008 10:29 AM:

" The NSM is not out to destroy the laws and the rights of the people. I really wish that everyone would do some research before posting about something they know nothing about. The only reason they are marching in JC is out of respect for the officers in Columbia that will be rather busy that day with the game. Trust me, they will be headed back to Columbia in the near future. Why do you keep calling them a hate group? They love their race and nation just as much as every other race out there does. Just because they are white does it make it wrong to be proud? I think not! "

SmokeOutTheBiasMedia wrote on Oct 13, 2008 5:42 PM:

" Blunt says in this article, “The answer is they are benefiting from the very laws they seek to destroy.”

I don't think the Neo-Nazis are attempting to overthrow the right to demonstrate publicly.

If he really wanted to throw a wrench in their plans, he could have organized a "Love Cultural Diversity" demonstration the same day. "

JCpatriot wrote on Oct 13, 2008 11:34 AM:

" Correction : against him. sorry forgot put him. "

joytotheworld wrote on Oct 10, 2008 6:17 PM:

" I hope they have fun. :) "

Byron W. wrote on Oct 9, 2008 5:11 PM:

" wow wrote "I don't think he did anything wrong by having his staff look into how to prevent the NSM from gathering on state property."

Exactly. That is what we want government to do. Look at the options and make a decision. In this case they decided they couldn't take action. But unlimke liberals they actually thought about it. "

Byron W. wrote on Oct 9, 2008 5:05 PM:

" castigliano wrote "I do not agree with the Nazi's, in fact I am totally against them. But as Americans they have the same right to speak their minds as you or I.

Of course Byron, that does not set good with you. Hope you have a fun time at the rally."

You aapprently have not read my posts on this subject. I didn't say block them for what they say. What I was defending was that the issue was reviewed to see if something legally could be done. Blunt didn't do anything ut look at his legal options. But you couldn't even give him that credit. You were saying he was violating the law. He wasn't. You are a liar. "

Byron W. wrote on Oct 9, 2008 4:55 PM:

" cjs wrote "Byron W - if YOU look you'll see that castigliano said "try" - that does not mean it was accomplished, just attempted."

Trying means doing something. They looked at their options and determined they could take no action. That is what we want the government to do. "

JCpatriot wrote on Oct 9, 2008 1:35 PM:

" The Nazi agenda is to continue recruiting & belittle the Jewish People in MidMO on the Eve of Yum Kuppur (Jewish New Years eve) . No body show up is the Best thing... But with human nature,I think Capitol police & JCPD gonna be busy Nov. 8th...

Has Boscoe says Goose Stepping in Riot gear is gonna probably happen that day... "

naturally wrote on Oct 9, 2008 12:17 PM:

" Well two-cents' I under estimated you. And as gofish said it probably boils down to a lack of cooperation between our governor and J. Nixon. That's happened way too much in this term.
There are a lot of us that would applaud if you can get this stopped. If you can't it will still certainly make for a good news story and benefit Hulshof. "

gofish wrote on Oct 9, 2008 12:11 PM:

" So Matt Blunt-trauma, about this whole free speech thing on public property, where are those emails we've so anxiously been awaiting from your office?

Seems to me if you expect to lose a legal challenge to the Neo-Nazi's then you outta be coming to the same conclusion about your own emails.

How about a little cooperation with local law enforcement aka Jay Nixon, our NEXT governor?

Hipocrit! "

two_cents_worth wrote on Oct 9, 2008 12:08 PM:

" no consequence since they PUBLICALLY advertised the act.

Our attorney general should certainly be able to use the language in this statute to run this puke out of town. If he's not going to step up to do his duty, guess who I'm not gonna vote for next month!

There ya go Jay...A throwdown to ya!!

Besides... They're still an enemy of the U.S.!!

A DEADLY ENEMY!! "

two_cents_worth wrote on Oct 9, 2008 11:58 AM:

" Smart? Hah! Don't follow me around town 'cause I'm just as lost as the next guy...BUT..

The plain language of Title 18 USC Section 241 states that this group would be illegal. Many decisions have been handed down stating that an overt act is not required in this statute, merely the conspiracy to oppress. They've certainly demonstrated this just from looking at they're website. But there's more...

Their stated act of book burning could be veiwed as an overt act (when it happens)of oppressing the right of free speech. The fact that it's on private property would be of.... "

naturally wrote on Oct 9, 2008 10:42 AM:

" two-cents' - I can see that you are smarter than all the legal degrees at the Capital and all the business degrees at the O.A. So please tell me how this is illegal, what leg have they got to stand on to block this. I'm sure they put much effort into finding a way but maybe they missed something that you can enlighten us with. "

two_cents_worth wrote on Oct 9, 2008 10:08 AM:

" Let's ask the millions of people they put to death if they should have free speech. Do not ignore this threat...They will not go away, THEY WILL GET STRONGER! "

two_cents_worth wrote on Oct 9, 2008 10:05 AM:

" Where is our protection now? Our welfare doen't need to be addressed now? Our state and city leaders are cowering behind bogus court rulings, afraid to roll up their sleeves & work for us. I'm glad this wimp isn't running for another term. And where's our attorny general? Not a peep! This is an ILLEGAL organization! Clearly in violation of the federal civil rights code. They should be arrested as they disembark from their bus. This trash is still our enemy! Right to free speech? Please! "

two_cents_worth wrote on Oct 9, 2008 9:54 AM:

" The welfare of the people shall be the supreme law.
Our motto has served us well in the past. Our state government approved precious blood & treasure to be spent during WWII. And many Missouri lives were lost to preserve our rights & freedoms here at home. Our government chose to protect us from the enemy. The same enemy that now wants to march in our city. We went to war with these people! If the govenor then would have given the ok for the nazis to rally here, he would have been removed from office and tried for treason! "

p-diddle wrote on Oct 9, 2008 8:04 AM:

" cjs - In my brief experience with Mac it is both arrogance and ignorance that makes him write what he writes.

As for the Nazis...don't let them have control over the way you feel or your behavior. Do what you want to do, within the law. Show up or don't show up. I don't care, and no one else should either.

That goes for everyone. Go or don't go. What others think doesn't amount to a hill of beans. "

cjs wrote on Oct 9, 2008 7:48 AM:

" Mac - it is either arrogance or ignorance that would have you say - just because I don't agree with you - that I am a nazi or supporter of their cause.

However, you are right that I have a motive to my messages - and that is to keep this event from making an impact on our city.

I have said any number of times that I abhor their message and am against their message. But I recognize their right to march. I also recognize how futile it would be for them to do so, were our streets empty. "

Mac1974 wrote on Oct 9, 2008 6:44 AM:

" One more thing.

When the nazis marched in Columbia there were supporters standing in the crowd. The nazis even gave the microphone to some of these people to voice their support. If supporters showed in Columbia, can you even imagine what it would be like in J.C.?

We don't want that to end up on a major news network. We need to let this community, state, and anyone else know that we do not just accept this in Jefferson City, Missouri. It can be accomplished peacefully. "

Mac1974 wrote on Oct 9, 2008 6:39 AM:

" ~~~~~~~I wish! And in a different world, maybe. But if you get a bunch of folks together in a setting like this march, someone is going to mouth off or throw a punch or push someone else, and then it will just be a brawl.~~~~~~~

It's extremely narrow-minded and naive to believe every protest winds up in a physical altercation. This is America cjs. We don't live in one of the greatest countries on the planet because we sit down every time an oppressive group of people come around and try to spread their disease. "

Mac1974 wrote on Oct 9, 2008 6:32 AM:

" ~~~~~~Can you not see that if NOBODY were to show up, it would show (through solidarity) that we are not interested, and they would likely never care to come back to JC again?~~~~~~

No, I cannot see that, but I CAN see why you keep relentlessly beating this dead horse. It's obvious you must have some motive here. In fact, you might be one of the nazis yourself. You keep going on and on and on about your opposition to protests because YOU probably don't want to experience an altercation while spreading your message. YOU only want supporters of nazis to attend this event so they can hear your message without the distraction of protesters. Why else would you-care-so-much-about-this-? "

aswell wrote on Oct 9, 2008 12:05 AM:

" To bad its not this weekend it could get real colorful I even stopped my limo service for my high rollers for this week, after hearing about past annual police reports on a week like this,but ill be at the capitol with a coke and popcorn. "

cjs wrote on Oct 8, 2008 11:40 PM:

" Boscoe - you wrote it would make a difference if "...the entire community shows up and shows solidarity against the nazis..."

I wish! And in a different world, maybe. But if you get a bunch of folks together in a setting like this march, someone is going to mouth off or throw a punch or push someone else, and then it will just be a brawl.

Can you not see that if NOBODY were to show up, it would show (through solidarity) that we are not interested, and they would likely never care to come back to JC again? If a bunch of folks show for this, there will likely be trouble - an no winners. "

Boscoe wrote on Oct 8, 2008 9:29 PM:

" These idiots marching will not spread hatred. In fact, I see a different view: If the entire community shows up and shows solidarity against the nazis, their march will actually strengthen the community and get people to stand together to oppose the nazis. Their march will bring exactly the opposite of what they want: a unified group of good Christians who will not tolerate their hatred.

In left-wing liberal tree-hugging Columbia, the Nazis will not get community solidarity against hatred. The conflict was between the decent people and the liberals. "

naturally wrote on Oct 8, 2008 8:57 PM:

" castigliano - last week we all wanted to know if anyone had thoroughly researched it before giving permission. They did and now you're complaining about that - just no pleasing some people. "

wow wrote on Oct 8, 2008 7:58 PM:

" I'm no Matt Blunt fan, but I don't think he did anything wrong by having his staff look into how to prevent the NSM from gathering on state property (IEthe Gov's Manson and the steps of the State Capitol Bldg). Whatever these NSM folks want to say and do on private property is their business, but allowing them to conduct business on state property gives the impression that "State Government Officials" support their cause. For once I 'm glad that somebody in an official position stood up and said that the US Gov't supports the freedom of speech, but does not support groups that promote hate, especially not on state property or time. I'm-voting-for-JN-Nov-4th-but-Gov-Blunt-and-his-staff-did-the-right-thing-and-deserve-to-be-congratulated-Thank-you-Mr.-Gov. "

castigliano wrote on Oct 8, 2008 7:33 PM:

" You know the truth is that it was blunt who attempting to silence these peoples freedom of speech. And spending TAXPAYERS DOLLARS to do it!

The exact same thing he accused the Nazi's of trying to do, he was trying to do himself.

Now, isn't that ironic? "

castigliano wrote on Oct 8, 2008 7:18 PM:

" What's wrong Byron, of course they could not block it.

"Freedom of speech" does not mean only speech that you agree with.

I do not agree with the Nazi's, in fact I am totally against them. But as Americans they have the same right to speak their minds as you or I.

Of course Byron, that does not set good with you. Hope you have a fun time at the rally. "

cjs wrote on Oct 8, 2008 7:09 PM:

" Byron W - if YOU look you'll see that castigliano said "try" - that does not mean it was accomplished, just attempted. And the article itself says Blunt & Co "considered every option for the Office of Administration to deny a permit..." So that means they DID try and they failed. "

Byron W. wrote on Oct 8, 2008 7:04 PM:

" castigliano wrote "If it is unconstitutional, leave it up to baby blunt to give it a try."

Obvioulsy that didn't happen. They looked at said they couldn't block it. Take a hike and take your bias with you. "

castigliano wrote on Oct 8, 2008 6:11 PM:

" If it is unconstitutional, leave it up to baby blunt to give it a try. "

cjs wrote on Oct 8, 2008 5:37 PM:

" I am attempting to see both sides to this issue, and I think I can. But I am troubled by the information that Blunt tried to block this march. It seems that he should be working to ensure our rights, rather than blocking them. If most groups were to ask for a permit it would (probably) be granted without much notice. But because the neo-nazi group is who they are - and most all of us abhor their message - Blunt tried to prevent it. Tolerance requires that we allow expression even of the beliefs we do not hold to. "

cjs wrote on Oct 8, 2008 4:59 PM:

" shinymcshine - well said!! "

shinymcshine wrote on Oct 8, 2008 4:56 PM:

" two_cents_worth wrote on Oct 8, 2008 3:38 PM:

" Oh don't be fooled. This group wants you to stay away. They want to have free reign to recruit as many people as they can without interference. THAT'S what they're here for.. to RECRUIT!

So if no one's there, who the heck are they recruiting? It shows them for what they are; a band of losers whose only accomplishment in life has been to remain pigment challenged. The sweetest story the media could get would be "The Nazis Came....And No Cared". If they're rendered insignifigant, no one will want to join them. "

cjs wrote on Oct 8, 2008 4:31 PM:

" To attend this march as a spectator is to give it credence. Ignore it. Ignore them. Do not encourage them. Imagine this: they are marching on empty streets. Do you think they would like that? Nope. We should not give them the benefit of our time. "

cjs wrote on Oct 8, 2008 4:29 PM:

" two_cents_worth - you said 40 years ago they would not have been allowed to march here. Well, it's likely we would not have welcomed a march in which blacks were the participants, either, so that's really a faulty train of thought you are riding. "

ODF wrote on Oct 8, 2008 3:47 PM:

" You are exactly right Yadda - all this group wants is publicity and media attention. "

two_cents_worth wrote on Oct 8, 2008 3:38 PM:

" Oh don't be fooled. This group wants you to stay away. They want to have free reign to recruit as many people as they can without interference. THAT'S what they're here for.. to RECRUIT! Terrorism doesn't go away if ignored. If they are allowed to rally here under the guise of 'free speech', they'll come back again and again. And I can guarentee they WILL recruit someone each time they are here. They need to be told and shown they will not be tolerated here now or ever! "

YadaYada wrote on Oct 8, 2008 3:36 PM:

" I agree with Reader123. DO NOT attend this event. It's what they want, publicity. I really wish the media would not even give this any airtime, as it will only promote what we already know is not needed in this town. More hate. Unfortunately, I know they will give them air time, but the best we as Jeff City'ans can do is send requests to KRCG, KOMU, KMIZ, etc. asking them not to air any coverage. "

YadaYada wrote on Oct 8, 2008 3:31 PM:

" ODF I correct myself, you are correct and I knew that. Just don't think they should have the "right" to spread hate messages as they are. "

ODF wrote on Oct 8, 2008 3:28 PM:

" 2 cents - I take a somewhat opposite view. Too many Americans have died for our freedoms and this country's principle's to deny them the right to speak freely, regardless of how vile or repulsive we feel they are.

Naturally - I have a feeling when all the lawsuits are resolved we will know why he didn't run...but I could be wrong. It does seem really odd that he isn't running again...kind of makes you wonder... "

countercouple wrote on Oct 8, 2008 3:26 PM:

" Great job showing disapproval a week after the fact Gov!

Two_Cents_- Your idea is not only dumb and uneffective its also trampeling upon the nazi's rights given to them by our constitution(no I wont argue with anyone over the constitution)

Instead, make a sign and stand in unbridled protest where the authorities tell you.

Meanwhile the vast majority of Missourians will be watching the game and not letting these historical anachronisms have the day. "

interested wrote on Oct 8, 2008 3:24 PM:

" I agree, everyone stay away. That's what they want for people to come and see them..... "

reader123 wrote on Oct 8, 2008 3:20 PM:

" If you don't like this group, DO NOT go to their parade. Seriously, if they march down empty streets, they will try somewhere other than Jeff City next year. If we give them the attention and chaos they are seeking, they might choose to make Jeff City the location for their annual event. I would urge local media outlets not to give this group coverage. Please, fellow citizens, let this be a non-event. Stay home or go watch the Cross County runners at Oak Hills. That makes it easier on our local police also. "

naturally wrote on Oct 8, 2008 3:04 PM:

" that was supposed to be ship, not'whip', but you get my point "

naturally wrote on Oct 8, 2008 3:03 PM:

" I do wonder why he's not running a second term. He doesn't mind telling it like it is.
His biggest problem was trying to turn a big whip too tightly. But I have to respect his moxy and intentions. "

two_cents_worth wrote on Oct 8, 2008 2:59 PM:

" 40 years ago, this group would not have been allowed to march here. It should not be allowed to march here now. Members of our families died in WWII fighting this trash. It's a disgrace that they are now being allowed to parade here. It has now fallen to the citizens to refuse to allow this march. Anyone who cares about living in a free society should be there to PEACEFULLY BLOCK THIS MARCH!!! "

ODF wrote on Oct 8, 2008 2:49 PM:

" Yada - It wasn't that they couldn't succeed necessarily. They were denied the parade permit to march because of the football game that day. They could have still met or could have changed the date for the march.
This has been batted around over here. I do not agree with this organizations viewpoints, but I believe they have the right to freely voice their opinion. "

YadaYada wrote on Oct 8, 2008 2:44 PM:

" I agree. But some organizations should not be allowed. They couldn't suceed in Columbia, now they move to JC. Last thing we need is a hate group marching in this city. "

ODF wrote on Oct 8, 2008 2:20 PM:

" Nothing like trying to block free speech on public property. "

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